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Former Avalon singer on coming out, getting ousted and where he is today
Michael Passons was founding member of CCM supergroup known for ‘Testify to Love’


Fans of the Christian pop group Avalon always wondered why founding member Michael Passons resigned abruptly in 2003 and then seemed to drop off the face of the earth.
There was talk of a solo album but none materialized. The official word was that he was “moving on to other things.”
The group had had a wildly successful run. Founded in the mid-’90s, Avalon released its self-titled debut album in 1996 on Sparrow and four more (“A Maze of Grace” in 1997, “In a Different Light” in 1999, “Joy: a Christmas Collection” in 2000 and “Oxygen” in 2001) as well as a hits collection with new material (“Testify to Love: the Very Best of Avalon”) in 2003 racking up 19 No. 1 singles on the Billboard gospel charts, two RIAA-certified gold albums, six Dove Awards, an American Music Award and three Grammy nominations.
Initially there was a blond male and female singer and a brunette male and female singer to round out the foursome in ways that were both visually and sonically appealing. There was regular turnover in one of the “female” slots but Passons, Janna (nee Potter) Long and Jody McBrayer formed the group’s backbone all through its early and most successful years.
After years of silence, in September, Passons came out as gay on Josh Skinner’s “Jonah and the Whale” podcast and said he was fired from the group for declining to continue with “reparative” therapy. The podcast generated significant media buzz and was aggregated in mainstream outlets like Billboard and People.
Though candid and forthcoming in the podcast, there was more to the story. Passons, a 54-year-old Yazoo City, Miss., native, was chatty and candid in a 45-minute phone interview from his Nashville home on working in the CCM (contemporary Christian music) bubble, hiding his sexuality for so many years, why he opted to come out now and about the Dove Award he nabbed from Whitney Houston at the 1998 ceremony. His comments have been slightly edited for length.

WASHINGTON BLADE: It was great to hear the podcast. It felt like you’d just kinda vanished.
MICHAEL PASSONS: I understand that people would see it that way because you’re just kind of out of the public eye when you’re not making music, not putting music out and doing interviews, and I had not done any of that pretty much in 17 years. And I didn’t really expect this podcast to get the attention that it did get. It was a bit of a surprise to me that there was so much of an interest in a 17-year-old story.
BLADE: Why did it feel like now was the right time? How did it come about?
PASSONS: It wasn’t some calculated move, I was approached by a friend who introduced me to Josh Skinner who has a podcast Jonah and the Whale and said would you like to be a guest? This particular podcast deals with an underwater moment in your life and I had previously had conversations with my family just a couple months earlier, just about my life and the truth of my life so I thought, “Well now is the perfect time,” so it really wasn’t planned out far in advance. An opportunity landed in my lap and I decided to tell the story.
BLADE: Had you been approached before?
PASSONS: Well, I’ve been pretty under the radar. I’ve been traveling the last 15 years with another Christian group, but only in the band. I play keys for Point of Grace. I wanted to keep my foot in the water … but I didn’t want to be the front guy … so I really hadn’t been approached by journalists at all until now.
BLADE: You tell in the podcast about how they came to your house for a meeting in 2003 and this all came to a head. How had they known you were gay in the first place? What led up to that meeting?
PASSONS: Well at that point I was 38 years old, I wasn’t married, I wasn’t dating, (so) rumors begin to swirl when you have that type of scenario and we had discussions about it several years before. So that’s when … they said to me I needed to go to therapy. It really was in 2002 that they wanted me to go to reparative therapy or at least go see a counselor or some guy who said his credentials were counseling gay people. So I did that to appease them but I knew it was a fruitless effort, and as I say in the podcast, that didn’t last very long. I told them I wasn’t going back to that. It had been a conversation for about a year or so before 2003.
BLADE: Did you have a pretty good relationship with them otherwise?
PASSONS: Well over the course of the eight years we were traveling together, I saw those people more than anyone else. Our schedule was so demanding and we toured almost nonstop. … So we did at the time have this family-type relationship but … groups often have a shorter shelf life than solo artists because there are multiple people with multiple goals and aspirations and so unless all four of us aligned, there were always going to be these times where one wants to do a solo deal or they think we should do this or go in this direction and so we kind of started growing apart in our vision. Jody and Janna wanted to do solo records and I thought that was something that was going to fracture the group and our brand and that did cause some tensions because the other two members really wanted to focus our efforts on the Avalon brand because that’s what was familiar to everyone. So over the years we became not as close and then of course you add something like this which kind of draws a line and you have to choose what side of the line you’re going to be on.
BLADE: Bear with me a sec, but I’m going to read you Jody’s quote to CCM Magazine in April, 2004 when he said: “We had a meeting at Michael’s house one day and he told us he was going to move on to other things. We sat and cried and felt like the rug had been pulled out from under us. Things had felt great with the new group and Michael seemed to get along and blend vocally with (then-new member) Melissa (Greene) really well. But Michael had been with us from the beginning and just felt it was time for him to do something else. It’s weird but since his departure, it seems everyone is looking for some scandalous thing to have happened there. It makes me just want to say, ‘Look, I’m sorry to disappoint you that we don’t have some juicy gossip or ‘Dynasty’ episode happening here.” Based on what you shared in the podcast, that was a gross mischaracterization of how it went down. Did you read that at the time? How did it make you feel?
PASSONS: At the time the record label and management held really right reins on us because they created the group, it was their idea. They wanted to find a group that was already in existence that was two guys, two girls. They couldn’t do it so they said, “Let’s just put one together,” so we never felt like we had ownership of much. … So when management and label say, “This is what you are to say,” it became kind of like a bullshit fest at that point. You just gotta stick with the story and that’s what Jody was doing, he was sticking with the story he was told to say. … That was just the way they chose to handle it at the time. … Interestingly enough, Jody reached out to me after the podcast aired and we had not really talked in 17 years other than bumping into each other in a restaurant and saying a quick hello. We met for about an hour we met at a park here in Nashville and just walked around and he apologized profusely and said his heart was broken when he was listening to that podcast. He was very sincere and I accepted what he had to say and I feel like our relationship has actually — there was some definite closure there as far as what I’d been feeling all of these years and so that was a good thing that came out of this and I’m glad he reached out to me.
The Blade invited McBrayer to comment. In response to the question, “Did you feel muzzled by the label?” he sent this response: “Absolutely muzzled. However I would have never ever said anything to hurt Michael’s reputation. We were asked for years about what happened and myself and my family refused to say anything that would put Michael in a bad light. We were given a statement and told to go with it. We did everything we were told at the time. … Michael knows I love him and hate how all of it went down and how he was treated by the industry. I’m so thankful he’s happy and grown beyond it all now. I will continue to protect him. He will always be family.”
BLADE: Was there any truth to what they were saying? Had you been considering a solo album?
PASSONS: No. I know my strengths and my strength was not as a solo artist. … I enjoyed the team mentality of a group. … I think fans and people outside the industry took the press release at face value but people inside the industry heard pretty quickly what had really happened. Gossip and rumors spread really quickly around Nashville so I just thought, “OK, I’m gonna just start life No. 3 here.” (chuckles)
BLADE: A few other big CCM artists eventually came out like Jennifer Knapp and Ray Boltz. Did you follow that or ever compare notes with them?
PASSONS: I don’t know either of those artists personally. I’ve never really interacted with them. I think we did a show once with Jennifer years and years ago but it was just mainly, “Hello, nice to meet you.” I applaud them for living their best life and telling their truth but I just never felt like mine was necessarily a story that needed to be told. I wasn’t a solo artist. I would get recognized occasionally. People would say, “Oh, you’re that guy who was in that group,” but I would say 80 percent of fans just knew me as the blond guy. So I didn’t feel like I had tons of name recognition or that my story mattered. But in the last few years, I wanted to be more truthful with my family so that’s really where all this came out of.
BLADE: Did anybody else from your CCM days reach out besides Jody?
PASSONS: I’ve received tons of texts and Instagram messages from friends from home, friends from college, fans, strangers. As far as the industry, some people that I haven’t seen in a while. It was very interesting. Amy Grant texted me and told me she listened and thought my story was beautiful in the way I told it and graceful and I appreciated that. Susan Ashton reached out and I haven’t seen her in years. She was very encouraging. She said, “You are seen and heard and loved.” Everything has been overwhelmingly positive.
BLADE: Did you get to know the other artists very well or have much interaction on the multi-artist tours you did like “Emmanuel” or “My Utmost”?
PASSONS: Yeah, we had a lot of time to just hang out, especially on the bus. You’re traveling late at night and everyone’s wired so you’re staying up and visiting. But we were really new artists at that time and we were thrown into a mix of all of these people that were our mentors, our heroes. We were fans of theirs and now we’re all of a sudden peers, just because of how Avalon came together. Our very first tour before we even sang a note on a record was “Young Messiah” in ’95. We had just come together weeks before and just had enough time to record one Christmas song so that we could sing that song on that tour and there we were next to 4 HIM and Point of Grace and Steven Curtis Chapman and Larnelle Harris and that was mind-blowing to be with all these great artists. But yes, everyone was very welcoming had lots of encouragement for us and advice and I actually really enjoyed those tours.
BLADE: I saw you guys once with Twila Paris. What was she like?
PASSONS: That was our first tour (the “Where I Stand Tour” in 1997). We did Young Messiah that Christmas and then we did our record, then we toured with Twila. We were definitely getting our feet wet just seeing how this industry was going to work … how we were gonna mesh as a group because we were thrown on stage and we had to find our blend. Live, It’s one thing to be in the studio and be mixed and blended but to sing live, the Twila Paris tour was really just where we began to hone our craft as a group and so yeah, that was wonderful. I had many good experiences wth that tour. We dd a spring tour and a fall tour with Twila and it was a long tour but we definitely leaned a lot.
BLADE: Is there anybody in CCM who struck you as markedly different from their public persona?
PASSONS: I feel like everyone would be a little different than what you perceive them to be because you only see a very structured view of them by the PR department of the record label. I really enjoyed getting to know Sandi Patty because when you listen to her music, you just don’t pick up on the edge that she has. She has this great sense of humor that’s a little edgy. I don’t know, my image of Sandi Patty was that she was always walking around in some state of meditation or sitting around in a prayer circle because when you’re growing up you just think of someone in such a reverent way because you respected their music so much and she was just she a cut up, she kidded around, she invited us to her home in Indiana at that point just to hang out with her family and I just I enjoyed seeing a whole different side of her. She’s a very strong personality, a strong woman and listening and singing along with her records, it was just good to see the other side of her.
BLADE: What have you been living on all these years?
PASSONS: I play for Point of Grace and also a friend of mine in town, an attorney and I actually work with her in her law practice and of course being friends with the boss, you can leave anytime and so I’m free to travel whenever I need to and want to so that allows me to hang out with Point of Grace and go where they go. 2020 has been interesting. Since March, we’ve only had two shows and they were very small, so it’s been really interesting year for sure.
BLADE: What denomination did you grow up in?
PASSONS: Southern Baptist. A little country church in Mississippi.
BLADE: Are there still elements of Baptist or evangelical theology you struggle with? Queer or otherwise?
PASSONS: I’m past struggling with it. Of course, it’s something I think about often but I don’t struggle with it any longer. … I’ve definitely got a different view of spiritualism. I don’t consider myself religious but I do believe in God and so I do have a spiritual life but it just doesn’t involve organized religion and that’s just where I’ve landed.
BLADE: But do you still believe the Christianity basics — Jesus died for our sins and rose on the third day and so on or is it a broader thing for you?
PASSONS: It’s a broader spiritual thing and like I said in my previous interview, I’m just in this place of my prayer to God is show me what is true. I’m not gonna close my mind to anything, I’m not going to say, “Oh this is what I was taught and I don’t believe that anymore,” I just want to step back and rebuild all those boxes, rebuild what my spirituality is, kind of like just implode it to ground level and let’s start again. I was taught by very well-intended people. All my Sunday School teachers in that little church, they didn’t have any malice, they were well-intended people teaching what they believed. We were spoon fed, so at some point in your life you have to just decide of all that information you took in, what do you really believe? I had to get to the point where I was OK disagreeing and not believing some of the things I was taught. it wasn’t disrespectful to those people, I just have to find my own way.
BLADE: Do you think the conservative, white evangelical world will ever become openly accepting of LGBT people? Is it a lost cause or could it be a whole different story in another generation?
PASSONS: I think there is hope. I’ve seen so much progress in Christian circles just in my lifetime that I never thought I would see. It’s pockets, it’s not widespread, but … I think there is hope. A lot of things used to be justified with scripture that they eventually came around on. (Author) Peter Gomes calls it “the last prejudice of the church.” … After I left, Avalon recorded a song called “Orphans of God,” which I thought was interesting that they were singing it because I was definitely an outcast to them. But now my friend (out country singer) Ty Herndon and Kristen Chenoweth are going to cover it for a Christmas release as a duet and they asked Melissa Greene and I to sing backing vocals on it so now it will take on a whole new meaning. It was a really nice, full circle moment.
BLADE: Did you keep up with what Avalon was doing much after you were kicked out?
PASSONS: No. It would have put me in a bad headspace.
BLADE: Have you had many boyfriends? Are you in a relationship now?
PASSONS: I am. I’m with a wonderful guy now and it’s going well.
BLADE: Not married though?
PASSONS: No, not married (laughs).
BLADE: How long was it before you were comfortable dating guys?
PASSONS: It took me a while, because when all that went down, I internalized a lot of things and I thought, “Well this is my fault,” type of thing. It really took many years for me to just work through all the junk and work through that cloud in my head and so it wasn’t like some big unleashing. It wasn’t like I left Avalon and just started living my best life, it definitely took awhile to repair the hurt that happened from those several years when Avalon was ending and all the things I went through at that point.
BLADE: Do you know of other LGBT people in CCM who are not out?
PASSONS: Yeah, I do. I feel for them because I know that panicky feeling I used to have, that someone might catch on. … But I think a lot of conservative Christians might be naive as to how many people are gay or bi in their church. You learn from a very early age to be a good actor.
BLADE: Who was your favorite Avalon producer to work with?
PASSONS: Brown Bannister produced most of the records when I was in the group. He’s, you know, such an icon in our industry and I have so much reverence for him and so much respect, so it was an honor to work with him. He actually brought out the best in me. There was something about just his people skills and he was just so kind and thoughtful in how he spoke with you and guided you through the recording process. He just took the time, even just to find the right microphone for me, because the mic in the studio can make a world of difference. I remember going through five or six mics before we found the right one. A lot of producers are just like, “OK let’s get this going, all right that’s great on to the next one.” He just took time to make it right and I appreciated that.
BLADE: How long did it take to make those albums on average?
PASSONS: When it came time to record, we would try to just block off weeks where we would just go in there and do vocals, vocals, vocals vocals and really mainly weekdays because we would go out on the weekends and do one-off, you know, weekend dates here and there. So we wouldn’t obviously do a new record in the midst of a tour because we’d want to tour the new record but during our one-offs we would get in there and try to get in it done and probably over the course of a month and a half, two months, we would have everything done.
BLADE: How involved were you all with the vocal arrangements? I always loved that outro and all those layers on “We Are the Reason,” for instance. How did you come up with all those intricate lines?
PASSONS: We had a great vocal vocal producer named Michael Mellett and he had been a studio singer in Nashville a long time and had toured with Billy Joel as a background singer. He would come in and help arrange our parts and he was amazing at it. And I remember he did work on our Christmas record and I remember that outro those alternate melodies that he helped us come up with, I loved that too. I felt like that really updated the song. It’s interesting because when we did it it was 20 years old and now it’s been 20 years since we did it, so it needs to be done again now. But it was my favorite song growing up. I used to sing it with an accompaniment tape at my little country church when I was a kid.
BLADE: Yeah, I love it too. Did (songwriter) David Meece ever say anything after you guys cut it?
PASSONS: Indirectly. I think he might have said something to Brown but we heard that he liked it.
BLADE: Who’s a celebrity who would exemplify your type?
PASSONS: (laughs) My type, wow. I’m definitely attracted to someone who is confident but not cocky, someone who has sensitivity but is not overly sensitive, someone who’s just confident in themselves, that’s a big attraction to me. If I were to throw out a celebrity I see a lot of those qualities in, and maybe I’m wrong, but someone like Bradley Cooper.
BLADE: Did you guys in Avalon have any say in choosing singles?
PASSONS: We were included in conversations but I feel like ultimately the label got what they wanted. There’s one little battle that we won and in retrospect not just one, but I just remember this instance, where the label disagreed with us about what we should call our second record and had we listened to the label, we probably would have sold a lot more. They wanted us to call it “Testify to Love” and we had no idea when we were naming the record and about to release it that that would be the one song that Avalon would be known for or that it be our biggest song ever. We thought “A Maze of Grace” was such a clever title. They disagreed but they let us do what we wanted. But who knew “Testify to Love” would become such a huge song for us?
BLADE: Was (Sparrow president) Bill Hearn around much?
PASSONS: We would see him periodically and even his father Billy Ray, who started the company, they’re both deceased now, but they were very approachable. They weren’t always in our meetings because we were more with A&R and publicity and stylists but when they were around, they were very approachable, very hands on.
BLADE: When you win a Dove Award, did you each get one or just one for the group?
PASSONS: At the ceremony, just one is given but then they mail three more to you like a month later.
BLADE: Where do you keep yours?
PASSONS: I have a little study/office that I’m sitting in right now. I just have them on a shelf along with some pictures and mementos and things I like to keep out. The interesting story about one our Dove Awards is our first Dove Award for new artist of the year and that was in 1998 I believe, and we got new artist of the year at the 29th Dove Awards and that was the year that Whitney Houston performed with Dottie Rambo … and we were backstage after we won doing a press junket so I missed her performance and I’m a huge Whitney Houston fan, like I would rival anyone else saying they’re a huge Whitney Houston fan. (laughs) She’s pretty much my all-time favorite artist. So after the show some press people wanted to take a photo of Whitney holding a Dove Award. She didn’t have one so Jody was standing close by with his and they said, “Can we have your Dove Award for a picture,” and so Whitney took our Dove Award and had her picture made with it and of course that was the only one we got that night and our manager said, “OK I’m gonna take that to the office and hold it ’til the others come in and you all can come by and pick them up,” and so before he could get to it, I got that particular one and took a Sharpie and made a mark on the bottom of it and the day that our manager said, “OK you can come by and pick up the Dove Awards they’re all in,” I was first one in there and I picked them all up and looked for the one I made the mark on because I wanted the one that Whitney had held. So I’m holding it right now, I’ve got that one in my hand and I always think of Whitney.
BLADE: Who were your favorite CCM acts growing up? Or did you listen to more pop?
PASSONS: I listened to a lot of pop and and country. My family is from a rural Mississippi town so country music was really most of what was on the radio and I love that old ’70s country. I still listen to it just because it has a lot of good memories. But I didn’t really know there was such a thing as CCM other than, you know, like Bill and Gloria Gaither-type stuff until I was in high school and someone handed me a tape of “Age to Age” by Amy Grant and that just lit a fire in me like I had no idea this type of thing existed, this is what I want to do. And of course I’ve just been I was a fan of Amy Grant from that day on and she was definitely a huge influence in the way I would sing music, the way I would write music, I would listen to interviews of her and I would just — she was a great teacher in that respect of just knowing how to respond to questions, how to react to people, just her demeanor, how she handled herself, she was definitely a role model.
BLADE: So that must have been mind-blowing to work with her producer (Brown Bannister) all those years later.
PASSONS: Yeah, definitely. And then her text last week, yeah, that was a nice moment.
BLADE: Why didn’t the more progressive Christian denominations ever have their own version of CCM? There are a few fledgling queer gospel singers out there but nothing like the machine that CCM was. Maybe they didn’t care as much if their kids listened to Metallica or whatever?
PASSONS: I think your theory might hold some weight, just that the conservative Christians were looking for an alternative for them and their families to listen to. One thing I think there probably wouldn’t have been a market in the liberal circles to sustain the industry, they wouldn’t have purchased the CDs and the music. It was the conservatives who made this a business and the Christian music business is a business. You have to be making money to be in CCM, that’s the dichotomy that I’ve always wrestled with. CCM depended on Becky, and I’ll tell you who Becky is. Becky is the pseudonym for their target audience. So any meeting we were in, it was always asked, “What would Becky buy, would Becky like this song?” And Becky is a 20-, 30- or 40-something conservative Christian female and she was the target audience because she was the ones buying the CDs and the tapes and downloading the music and so I think that’s maybe why the conservative church has kind of a market on CCM music.
BLADE: Is she related to Karen?
PASSONS: (laughs) That’s funny. If they’re not related, they’re probably best friends.
BLADE: When your bandmates came to your house that day, did it feel like it was coming from a place of love and concern or did it feel like a power play? Like they were trying to oust you?
PASSONS: It did feel like a power play. There were some very complicated personalities in the group and so it definitely — I did not feel much love that day.
BLADE: To me, it was like when Florence got kicked out of the Supremes. They could go on and do whatever they want, but without Florence, it wasn’t the Supremes. Without you, it wasn’t Avalon. The one female singer didn’t matter so much because she always changed. That was like the new season of “Charlie’s Angels,” you always knew she would change. But when you left, it was never the same.
PASSONS: I appreciate that, I’ve heard several say that and it’s always good to know that my contribution is something that was missed.

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Healing and uplifting communities through music and unity is the foundation of this event space created by Zacil “DJ Sizzle Fantastic” Pech and Norma “Normz La Oaxaqueña” Fajardo.
For nearly a decade DJ Sizzle has built a reputation in the queer POC and Spanish-speaking undocumented communities for making the space for them to come together to celebrate their culture and partake in the ultimate act of resistance — joy.

Couples, companions, comadres all dance together on the dancefloor at Cumbiatón. (Photo courtesy of Cumbiatón).
Cumbiatón was created during the first Trump administration as a direct response to the erasure, racism, homophobia and xenophobia that was engrained into the administration’s mission for those first four years. Now that the second Trump administration is upon us, the racism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia are tenfold.
This event space is a ‘party for the hood, by the hood.’ It is led by women, queer and trans people of color in every aspect of the production process.
The recent fires that burned through Altadena and Pacific Palisades made DJ Sizzle decide to step back from marketing the event in Los Angeles, an area where people had just lost their businesses, homes and where their lives were completely thrown for a loop.
Now they’re back, doubling-down on their mission to bring cumbias, corridos and all the music many of us grew up listening to, to places that are accessible and safe for our communities.
“I started Cumbiatón back in 2016, right after the election — which was weirdly similar because we’re going through it again. And a lot of us come from the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) movement. We were the ones to really push for that to happen along with the DREAM Act.”
DJ Sizzle says that she wanted to create a space out on the streets to celebrate life and come together, because of how mentally and physically taxing it is to be a part of the marginalized communities that were and still are, a major target for ongoing political attacks.

Edwin Soto and Julio Salgado pose for a photo at a Cumbiaton event in 2024. (Photo courtesy of Cumbiatón).
“We need these spaces so that we can kind of refuel and rejoice in each other’s existence,” said DJ Sizzle. “Because we saw each other out on the street a lot, but never did we really have time to sit down, have a drink, talk, laugh. So I found that music was the way to bring people together and that’s how Cumbiatón got started. It was honestly like a movement of political resistance through music.”
DJ Sizzle is an undocumented community organizer who aims to not only bring awareness to the issues that her communities face, but also to make space to celebrate the wins and bond over the music that brings people in Latin America, East L.A., Boyle Heights and the Bay area together.
Julio Salgado, a queer, visionary artist and migrant rights activist from Ensenada, Baja California with roots in Long Beach and the Bay Area, connected with DJ Sizzle over their shared passion in advocating for immigrant rights.
“Cumbiatón was created during the first [Trump] administration, where you know, a lot of people were really bummed out and so what Sizzle wanted to create was a place where people could come together and celebrate ourselves,” said Salgado. “Fast-forward to the second [Trump] administration and we’re here and feel a little bit more like: ‘oh shit, things are bad again.’ But, things have always been bad.”
Salgado is involved with Cumbiatón through his art. He is a mixed-media artist who creates cartoons using his lived experience with his sobriety journey, undocumented status and queer identity.
With a background in journalism from California State University, Long Beach, Salgado documents what activists do in the undocumented spaces he has been a part of throughout his life.
In 2017, Salgado moved back to Long Beach from the Bay Area, and at the time he started doing political artwork and posters for protests against the first Trump administration, but because the nature of that work can be very tiring, he says that he turned to a more uplifting version of his art where he also draws the joy and unity in his communities.
When he and Sizzle linked up to collaborate during that time, he thought he could use his skills to help uplift this brand and bring it to the forefront of the many events that saturate the party landscape.

DJ Sizzle doing her thing on stage, giving the crowd the music they went looking for. (Photo courtesy of Cumbiatón).
“We are familiar with using the dance floor as a way to kind of put the trauma a little bit away just for one night, get together and completely forget,” said Salgado.
Coming from an undocumented background, Salgado and Sizzle say that their experience with their legal status has made them very aware of how to go about the ID-check process at the door for their events.
“When you’re undocumented, you have something called a [High Security Consular Registration (HSCR)] and it’s kind of like your ID and many of these heterosexual clubs would see that and say it was fake,” said Salgado. “But at the gay club, they didn’t care.”
Just being conscious of what that form of ID looks like and knowing that it’s not fake, helps many of the hundreds of people who come through for Cumbiatón, feel just slightly more at ease.
Edwin Soto, who is another community activist and leader in the undocu-queer community, is also involved in the planning and organizing of the event.
In the long journey of making Cumbiatón what it is now, they say that they have all been very intentional about who they bring in, making sure that whoever they are, they also understand the experience of being undocumented and accepted anyway.
“Something that Sizzle and the team have been very intentional about is making sure that [the security at the door] knows that someone might be using their consulate card,” said Soto.
Bringing together this event space is no easy task, considering the fact that their events are deeply thought out, intentional and inclusive of not just people of color, but also people with differing abilities and people who do not reflect the norm in West Hollywood clubs.
“We created the space that we were longing for that we did not see in West Hollywood,” he said. “[Cumbiatón] is what life could really be like. Where women are not harassed by men. Where people are not body-shamed for what they’re wearing.”
When it comes to their lives outside of Cumbiatón and partying, Sizzle says that it does get exhausting and planning the event gets overwhelming.
“It is really difficult, I’m not going to lie,” said DJ Sizzle. “We are at a disadvantage being queer and being undocumented because this administration triggers us to a point that, anyone who is not a part of those identities or marginalized communities would ever be able to understand,” said Sizzle. “There are times where I’m just like: ‘I’m going to cocoon for a little bit’ and then that affects the marketing and the communication.”

Usually, the events bring in hundreds of people who are looking for community, safety and inclusion. (Photo courtesy of Cumbiatón).
That’s a little bit about what goes on behind the scenes — which really shouldn’t come as a surprise for anyone who is out there fighting for basic human rights, while also making the space to party and enjoy themselves.
“I’m really trying to find balance and honestly my life raft are my friends and my community,” she said. “Like, being able to share, being able to have this plática, and be like ‘bitch, I see you and I know its fucked up, but we got each other.’”
Cumbiatón was made with the purpose of making space to include and invite the many different people in these communities who are otherwise sidelined in broader conversations and in party scenes where they are not as inclusive or thoughtful about their attendees.
“How beautiful is it to be queer and listen to rancheras and to norteñas and cumbia, and to just own it,” said Soto.
To join Cumbiatón at their next party, visit their Instagram page.
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Best of LGBTQ+ LA 2025
Los Angeles Blade honors the best of the city as selected by our readers

The Los Angeles Blade celebrated its eighth annual Best of LGBTQ+ LA Awards with a spectacular show at The Abbey in West Hollywood on May 22, honoring the community’s best and brightest as selected by you, our readers.
The Awards honored our favorite bars, businesses, artists, organizations, and leaders and featured performances by drag queen Cake Moss, musicians Prince Joshua – who took home the awards for Local Musical Artist of the Year and Go-Go of the Year – and Robert Rene, comedian Allison Reese, and West Hollywood poet laureate Brian Sonia-Wallace. Drag artist Billy Francesca and LA Blade publisher Alexander Rodriguez emceed the event.
“We here in LA are excited to reflect our community, so tonight we’re honoring politicians, business owners, nightlife, entertainment, social media, and Billy,” Rodriguez said, opening the show.
One of the biggest winners of the night was queer mogul and “CEO of Everything Gay” Tristan Schukraft, who won LGBTQ Professional of the Year, while the bar he now owns, The Abbey, took Best LGBTQ Bar, and his pharmaceutical-delivery company MISTR took Best LGBTQ-owned business.
“I’m motivated by making change. We have a purpose, and queer entrepreneurs are building a community that makes a difference,” Schukraft said.

Drag artist and activist Pickle, who runs the LA chapter of Drag Story Hour and is West Hollywood’s first drag laureate, gave a moving speech after she was awarded the Local Hero Award, in which she encouraged anyone who’s facing distress to persevere through the darkness.
“Sometimes, just holding on for one more day is all you can do, but that is strength, and you are loved,” she said.
Transgender rights activist, model, and Blade contributor Rose Montoya was honored as Activist of the Year and Influencer of the Year, although she was unable to attend the ceremony.
“This recognition means more than she can express,” said her brother, Prince Joshua, accepting the award on her behalf. “Activism has never been a choice for her. It’s been a necessity. As a trans person, as a person who exists at the intersection of multiple identities, she’s had to fight not just for visibility, but for dignity, safety, and the right to exist. This work is personal. And in a time where hatred is getting louder, in our laws, in our schools, and in our streets, we don’t have the luxury of staying silent.”
Weho Pride notched two wins during the ceremony, including Best Regional Pride and Best LGBTQ Event for its OutLoud Music Festival, which kick off next week.
“We have a big week ahead and hopefully we’ll see you there because Pride starts here, and Pride starts now,” said Jeff Consoletti, Producer of Weho Pride, accepting the award.
The Gay Men’s Chorus of Los Angeles won the award for Best LGBTQ Social Group,
“The Gay Men’s Chorus of LA has been lifting our spirits through song and fighting for community and singing for all our causes since 1979,” said GMCLA Executive Director Lou Spisto, accepting the award. He also noted that the Chorus will honor Schukraft with its Voice Award at its upcoming Dancing Queens Gala June 21 at the Saban Theatre.
Trans Lifeline was awarded Non-Profit of the Year, likely a recognition of the organization’s importance as trans people have come under increasing attack across the country.

“They’ve received an increase in calls to the tune of 300%, so support your trans brothers and sisters,” Rodriguez said, announcing the award.
DJ Cazwell took home the award for best DJ, although a little mix-up had his award read Best Cannabis Retailer, a distinction that actually went to Green Qween. Cazwell spoke about how much he appreciates the community he found after moving to LA from New York.
“I moved here from New York nine years ago and I found a community of DJs who actually support each other here, so I want to shout out the other nominees,” Cazwell said.
That’s a sentiment that was echoed by Best Bartender winner Sumner Mormeneo from Beaches, who moved to LA from Florida.
“My first six months living here was rough. It wasn’t until I got a job at a bar in Weho that it started feeling like home, so thank you,” Mormeneo said.
More than 40 awards were given out in this year’s Best of LGBTQ+ LA. See the complete list of winners.

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Frankie Grande is loud and proud this WeHo Pride
Frankie Grande will be hitting the stage at this year’s Outloud Music Festival at WeHo Pride and is ready to bring the party

Among other queer and ally big names like Lizzo, Alyssa Edwards, Kim Petras and Frankie Grande will be taking center stage on Saturday, May 31, at this year’s OUTLOUD Music Festival at WeHo Pride. In the wake of the queer community’s current political strife, Grande is taking the spotlight, unapologetically and ready to bring the party, celebrating activism and sexuality unabashedly.
Hot off the heels of his recent two hit singles, “Rhythm of Love” and “Boys,” Grande is gearing up for the release of his new album, Hotel Rock Bottom, hitting platforms on June 27. The album is bringing queer aesthetic to the pop genre and is a retelling of Grande’s life as he has gone from party boy to stage, screen, and reality TV personality, to getting married and living a sober family life (dog and all).
We sat for a chat with Grande as he prepares for his WeHo Pride extravaganza. With everything socially and politically considered, Grande is not holding anything back this Pride season.
Pride is recharging and gearing up for battle. I feel like we’re in a place where our community is under attack, and this is the time where we get the microphone so recharge and get ready to be loud and be prouder than we ever have before. We need to show the world that we are not to be fucked with. We got the mic, so let’s use it.
No stranger to taking the stage, Grande promises a spectacle for his Outloud appearance.
I’m so excited. I’ve put so much effort into crafting a very beautiful show, a very gay show, a very hot show. I’ve selected some really fun songs from my album that people are going to get to hear for the first time because the album won’t be out. I’m also doing some fun and clever covers of songs that have inspired me. I’m excited that I’ve mixed it up and it’s going to be really fun and really gay.
This Pride, Frankie’s call to the gay community is clear.
Support our trans siblings. It is more important than ever. Go to your trans friends and be like, “Hey, what do you need? And how can I help?” Because they’re the ones who are directly being scapegoated at this moment. To think that it’s happening to them means it’s not happening to you is crazy. We are all part of the same community. We’re all under the rainbow umbrella, so let’s go support the community that is directly under attack right now.
Grande’s album comes at a time when queer folk could use a little levity and party attitude. He has been a long-time spokesperson for the LGBTQ community. He has used his platform from reality TV to his role as GLAAD board member to incite activism. He knows full well the fatigue that many of the queer community face as we continue to resist a brutal Presidential administration.
You have to find moments of joy. Honestly, that’s a lot of what this album is to me. It’s like, let’s dance around and bop and be silly to boys tonight so that we can hit the ground running tomorrow and go get some legislation overturned. My whole life, I’ve turned to the dance floor during times of stress, and I think we do need to do that. We have to go celebrate. We have to remember why it is so fun to be a huge homosexual and what we’re fighting for. But then we need to go fight. Don’t get so fucked up that you have to be in bed for three days because we actually do need to go to work.
Grande has also become the poster boy for sober party gays. Celebrating 8 years of sobriety, he has been very open about his journey and how it fits into gay culture. Being openly sober has gained momentum in the queer community and many Prides now include dry events. Grande knows the triggers that Pride can include and has some advice to his fellow sober folk.
First of all, sober gays are fun gays, let’s just say that. If you’re triggered, get the fuck out. You know? There are a lot of drugs, there’s a lot of drinking, there’s a lot of partying, and sometimes you’re just not fully ready to be in those environments. And if that is true, then just leave. The people who are drinking and using will have no idea that you left.
Also go find some sober friends to go with. I did everything in sobriety, like linked with my sober BFFs, Salina EsTitties and stylist Mandoh Melendez. They were my bodyguards and they were my shield, and they had more sobriety than I did. They showed me the ropes, and to this day, they’re still sober and my best friends. So, get a sober buddy and GTFO when you’re triggered, just leave.
Grande is being very vulnerable in his upcoming album Hotel Rock Bottom. Not only is he leaving himself to be compared to other family members in the business, but he is also telling his story on his own terms with music. What is his intent with his album?
My mission with this album is to inspire others to be themselves by being so open and honest. If you just want to listen to the surface value of my album, then you’re going to have a great fun dance time being like, this is so much fun. But if you want to actually go and listen to the lyrics and dissect it, you’ll see that there’s a lot of darkness and a lot of light on both sides of this album. I organized this album into side A and side B, or top and bottom, as we’re calling it on the vinyl. There’s sobriety and using days, there’s good and bad, and highs and lows on both. So, no judgment, it’s all about just be yourself, live your life, live authentically, and you’re going to get through whatever you’re dealing with.
And his message to the queer LA community this Weho Pride?
We’re very privileged and we’re very blessed because we’re in a very liberal and very blue state, so we need to have the best time and show up. But let’s make sure that we’re constantly beaming our love, light, and energy, and thinking about how we can help people in red states who are not going to have a governmentally and a community-supported Pride, because that is a reality these days. Let’s try to figure out how we’re going to help the country while we’re in the most liberal, most protected state in the world, which is fabulous.
Catch Grande onstage at Outloud on Saturday, May 31st. Hotel Rock Bottom will be released June 27th, available wherever you stream your music.
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New Musical Monday’s host to grace the stage for MISCAST
On Monday, Craig Taggart graces the stage at Mumo’s MISCAST segment

Actor Craig Taggart has had a colorful career that has transported him from St. Louis to Los Angeles.
Taggart made his L.A. stage debut in Del Shores’ revival of “Southern Baptist Sissies” and began a decades-long professional relationship that led to his appearance in a variety of “sordid” incarnations: in repertory in 2006’s Season of Shores in “Sordid Lives,” “Sordid Lives: It’s a Drag,” and then on TV’s “Sordid Lives: The Series” where he made his TV debut.
Los Angeles audiences have been privileged to see Taggart take the stage in a number of sketch comedies and hilarious parodies. One of his most popular runs has been portraying Bette Midler for “Rise n’ Shine” with Midler and Juliette Lewis, a surreal morning talk show hosted by the duo, played by comedy partner Chris Pudlo. Nowhere on Earth would these two stars be hanging out on a TV show, but the pairing works and the result is hilarious. We really would love to see the return of this dynamic duo.
Taggart will step into the emcee shoes this coming week while regular MuMo host Darin Sanone is traveling Europe. Taggart will present the very popular MISCAST edition, a fan-favorite segment of Musical Mondays that features actors performing roles that are far from their intended casting. From gender swaps to reinterpretations, MISCAST at Mumo is often hilarious, and many times poignant. We can’t wait.
We caught up with Taggart to talk about the power of musical theatre, his career and his fascination with divas.
What inspired your early love of musical theatre?
The first time I fell in love, I was in the third grade watching my grammar school’s performance of Cinderella…a leading lady — in this case a pre-teen girl — on stage singing a torchy power ballad. Smitten!
What was your first professional appearance on stage? How did it go?
Made my professional debut in The Miss Kitty’s Saloon Show at Six Flags St. Louis. 6 shows a day and getting to ride roller coasters when your shift is over…best summer job I ever had!
What was your journey from St. Louis to Los Angeles? What took some time getting used to?
There’s a saying in St. Louis: “If you don’t like the weather here, hang out for 24 hours. It’ll change. And boy, would it! What sold me on Los Angeles was the temperate climate all year long. Weather in Missouri is all over the map…the consistency of Mother Nature here in L.A. has helped, pun intended, weather the career fluctuations over the past couple of decades.
How has being part of the theatre changed your life?
I wouldn’t say theatre really changed my life. It defined my life, for the most part. It’s where I first experienced community. It’s where I was allowed to be myself and be celebrated for it.
We need more Bette and Juliet! Any plans to see more of these lovely ladies?
Funny you should mention that…we’ve been tinkering with the idea of bringing those broads back. I think a reunion show would be in order. Seems everyone’s getting a reboot these days…why not those gals?

Gender bending roles in the theatre have become very popular. What role would you cast yourself in?
I would throw a Little Mermaid into oncoming traffic to get to play ‘Ursula’ onstage.
What has been a personal triumph for you in your theatre career and why?
I made my NYC stage debut off-Broadway starring in “Wounded” by Jiggs Burgess and directed by my dear friend Del Shores this past year. Being involved with it from the initial zoom readings to its multiple award-winning run @ The 2023 Hollywood Fringe Festival to it garnering a residency at The SoHo Playhouse as its Overall Excellence Award Winner from the 2024 International Fringe Festival…that has been the cherry on the cake of my career on-stage so far.
What was your first exposure to Musical Mondays?
Wow…I honestly can’t recall my first time. Not that it wasn’t memorable–it just seems so ingrained in my DNA that I find it harder to think of a time when I DON’T recall being exposed to MuMo!
What is it about Musical Mondays that the community loves so much?
I’d say it’s due to the unabashed and unapologetic reverence for the genre.
Why is celebrating musical theatre so important right now?
Celebrating is a ceremony of respect…and with so much vitriol and animosity and negativity in the world these days…this artform–which, at its core, is one rooted in a reality where a story is only able to be told in so many words before it has nowhere else to go but through song–to me that is the purest form of joy. The purest expression of the soul. It’s art in multiple forms. It sings. It dances. It uplifts. It inspires. It unites and it’s defiant. In a world that stresses conformity, where we’re witnessing the ostracization of marginalized groups, it’s this beloved universe that decries “I Am What I Am”–with spotlights and sequins and showtunes–which, in my humble opinion, is the best antidote to all the ugliness we’re currently facing. Musical Theatre has got my undying and eternal respect…and it’s not only my job, but my duty and my honor and my purpose to celebrate it.
What can we expect from your upcoming appearance at MuMo?
To quote Miss M herself: “Did I sing the ballad yet? Was it wonderful?”
What do you love most about performing at MuMo?
Being a part of a crowd that wholeheartedly loves this art form like I do.
What is your message to Mumo fans?
No one says it better than Sondheim…so in my best Ethel, Angela, Tyne, Bernadette, Bette, Patty, & Audra…”Hold your hats, and Hallelujah! Mama’s gonna show it to ya!”
MuMo takes place every Monday at The Chapel at The Abbey; Los Angeles Blade serves as a proud media sponsor
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Scarlet Vows: A wedding celebration like no other where queer nightlife, love, liberation take center stage

On May 10th, West Hollywood will witness a wedding unlike any other — one that’s equal parts celebration and cultural statement. The Scarlet Vows is a fiery fusion of love, Black queer joy, and unapologetic nightlife, wrapped in a bold, red bow.
Celebrating the union of David Brandyn and Matthew Brinkley, Ph.D., this wedding transcends tradition, turning a day of commitment into a night of unforgettable energy, connection, and liberation. Picture a nightclub alive with lights, music, and bold red gowns swirling on the dance floor. Laughter fills the air, and joy radiates through every glittering detail. This isn’t just a wedding, it’s a love story turned party, turned cultural statement.
“We hate tradition,” said Brandyn, one half of the couple, co-producer of the event, writer and sexual health educator. “We wanted to celebrate in a place that actually feels like us — and that’s the club,” .
Together, he and Brinkley — a relationship therapist and dating coach — have built their careers around supporting Black queer communities.
“We’re not just partners in love — we’re partners in purpose,” explained Brandyn. “This celebration is a tribute to the spaces and people that raised us, healed us, and reminded us we were never alone.”
Their story began, like many queer romances today, with a match on Jack’d.
“But I avoided meeting up,” said Brandyn while laughing. “I knew if we met in person, I’d fall in love — and I wasn’t ready yet.” Brinkley, determined, found another way — showing up at David’s job picnic. As a QTBIPOC couple, the meaning behind this union goes far beyond the personal. “We are what we didn’t see growing up,” said Brandyn. “We’re living proof that Black queer love exists and deserves to be celebrated loudly.”
And that’s exactly what Scarlet Vows is: loud, proud, and deeply intentional. With every detail, the couple is reclaiming what weddings can look like for those of us who’ve been told we’re “too much, too queer, too different.” “We didn’t want perfection or tradition — we wanted sweat, sparkle, laughter, and love,” shared Brandyn. “So we created something that combines a ball, a house party, a love story, and a family reunion.”
The name Scarlet Vows is more than aesthetic. “Scarlet is bold, sexy [and] powerful. Vows are sacred. Together, it’s a declaration: this isn’t love whispered in secret. This is love out loud, in full color, surrounded by chosen family.”
From the moment guests walk in, they’ll be immersed in a world where Black queer joy is not only centered but celebrated. And when they walk out?
“We hope they feel more alive, more hopeful, and more connected to what’s possible,” said Brandyn.
Hosted at Beaches Tropicana, The Scarlet Vows promises an unforgettable night filled with live performances, giveaways, and vendors. The vibe? Elevated, emotional, and full of bold fashion. The dress code is red — think high glam, full drama, and statement-making looks.
But beneath the sequins and spotlight is something even deeper: purpose.
This celebration comes at a time when QTBIPOC communities are facing escalating attacks — politically, socially, and economically. The couple has weathered hardships planning this event too, including being robbed and experiencing sudden venue cancellations. Yet, they’ve persisted — reaching out to community members and aligned brands to co-create something powerful. “Nightlife saved us,” David reflects.
“It gave us safety, friendship, release. This is us giving back. This is joy without apology.” That joy is contagious. Whether you’re a longtime friend or a first-time guest, Scarlet Vows invites everyone to come as they are — whether in a gown, a jockstrap, or both. “Think warmth meets wild,” David smiles. “We want people to cry during the vows and then immediately turn up on the dance floor.”
What happens after the last dance? “Maybe this turns into something bigger,” he muses. “A recurring event, a documentary, a community tradition. Either way, the impact is already bigger than just one night.”
And if you’re still on the fence about attending? “You’ll miss the wedding of the year. A celebration of love, culture, and freedom. A ball, a rave, a healing circle, and a Black queer love story all in one,” said Brandyn. “If you’ve never seen what it looks like when we build something just for us — this is your chance.”
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Anthony Nunziata Performs the Great Palm Springs Songbook
He brings his signature genre-blending sound to the West Coast

‘America’s next romantic singing sensation,’
As the desert sun dips below the horizon this weekend, the Purple Room in Palm Springs will fill with crooning tales of love, loss and longing. Fresh from a sold-out run at Café Carlyle in New York, Anthony Nunziata brings his signature genre-blending sound to the West Coast. Nunziata invites audiences on an intimate journey through heartfelt originals and inventive takes on timeless classics, joined by cabaret favorite Joan Ryan and acclaimed pianist Jeff Franzel.
“Romance is so nuanced and I believe it begins with being vulnerable and honest,” said Nunziata when asked what it means to be the next romantic singing sensation. “I try to live in my music and song as if the story is being played out for the first time.”
That emotional immediacy is central to his performance style — an approach that resonates deeply with audiences, especially within the LGBTQ community. Nunziata acknowledges that LGBTQ listeners often have a profound connection to themes of love, longing and resilience.
“My original songs dive deep into all of those themes — yearning, a sense of belonging, hope, strength, faith,” said Nunziata.
But it is not just the music that resonates. LGBTQ audiences connect with Nunziata on a personal level as well.
“I’m a proud member of the LGBTQ community,” said Nunziata. “In the time we have in this world, I strive to encourage people that they are worth it.”
“At my concerts, you are loved and you are celebrated for all the beauty that makes you, you.”
While Nunziata’s original musical and personal presence embrace LGTBQ+ life, many songs from the Great American Songbook – with some of these songs appearing in his repertoire – were originally written through a heteronormative lens. However, Nunziata is purposeful in his selection of songs. “I deliberately choose songs that can apply to anyone,” he states, emphasizing that “a good love story is a good love story.” With that inclusive mindset, he also reimagines these pieces through genre-bending interpretations.
“I love bending from R&B to folk to country and classic pop. All the ‘genre-bending’ will be on display in Palm Springs,” Nunziata explains.
Joining Nunziata on stage in Palm Springs is special guest and cabaret favorite Joan Ryan, the acclaimed American actress and singer known for her roles in the Los Angeles production of “Ruthless!” and as Miss Tina Paladrino on “Good Morning, Miss Bliss” — the show that would eventually become “Saved by the Bell.” Nunziata calls Ryan one of his dearest friends.
“She is so quick and witty,” he tells the Blade. “I am excited that she’s free amidst her busy schedule to come to Palm Springs and wow the audiences with her gift.”
In addition to Ryan’s guest appearance, jazz pianist Jeff Franzel serves as Nunziata’s musical director. “I’ve written over 50 songs with Jeff,” Nunziata shares, highlighting Franzel’s impressive songwriting credits with artists like Josh Groban, Placido Domingo and Taylor Dayne. Franzel also brings a bit of local history to the performance — he once played in Palm Springs alongside one of Nunziata’s musical idols, Frank Sinatra.
“It’s a great story, and he’ll tell it this coming weekend,” Nunziata adds.
As with many artists, collaboration plays a key role in Nunziata’s creative process. “The collaborators I work with all bring something unique and wonderful to the songs I’m a part of writing,” he shares. For Nunziata, collaboration isn’t just about combining talents — it’s about openness and vulnerability, creating space for honest expression and new ideas.
“Writing songs is so vulnerable and it feels like the greatest extension of therapy,” he describes.
Looking ahead, Nunziata dreams of sharing the stage with some of his musical heroes. “I can’t wait to do a duet with Adele one day. Andrea Bocelli, too,” he says. At the same time, he honors the legends who paved the way.
“I would have loved to have duet-ed with Sammy Davis Jr. or Frank Sinatra. I do a subtle tribute to Sammy in my concert that I’ll be bringing to Palm Springs.”
Nunziata will take the stage at the Purple Room in Palm Springs on April 18th and 19th. With his eclectic charm and heartfelt approach to songwriting, it promises to be an unforgettable performance — one you won’t want to miss.
Nunziata leaves readers with this:
“It’s beautiful to – as Sondheim so brilliantly wrote – make a hat where there never was a hat. To make something out of nothing. And, if you’re lucky, get to perform the song and touch some lives along the way. That is the driving purpose and passion for my songwriting.”
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Peppermint thrives in the spotlight
In this exclusive interview, Peppermint talks about her latest work in activism and acting

As an entertainer, there’s not much that Peppermint hasn’t done. She’s a singer, actor, songwriter, reality TV personality, drag queen, podcaster and the list goes on. Most importantly, as an activist she has been an invaluable role model for the trans, queer and Black communities.
She’s a trailblazer who boasts an impressive list of ‘firsts.’ She is the first out trans contestant to be cast on “RuPaul’s Drag Race” (Season 9). She is the first trans woman to originate a principal musical role for Broadway’s “Head Over Heels.” She was also the first trans woman to compete in the runaway hit series “Traitors,” on Peacock, and she is the ACLU’s first-ever Artist Ambassador for Trans Justice. Her accolades are a true testament of the courage it took for Peppermint to live her authentic self.
We caught up with Peppermint to chat about her activism, taking on bigger roles on screen, our current political and social climate and life beyond the lens. For Peppermint, coming out as trans was not just a moment of strength—it was a necessity.
“It unfolded exactly as I had imagined it in terms of just feeling good and secure about who I am. I was in so much pain and sort of misery and anguish because I wasn’t able to live as free as I wanted to and that I knew that other people do when they just wake up. They get dressed, they walk out the door and they live their lives. Being able to live as your authentic self without fear of being persecuted by other people or by the government is essential to being healthy,” Peppermint tells the Los Angeles Blade in an exclusive interview.
“I was not able to imagine any other life. I remember saying to myself, ‘If I can’t imagine a life where I’m out and free and feeling secure and confident and left alone, then I don’t even want to imagine any kind of a life in the future,'” says Peppermint.
Recently, Peppermint returned for season 2 of Netflix’s comedy “Survival of the Thickest.” She added some spice and kick to the first season in her role as a drag bar owner. This time around, her character moves center stage, as her engagement and wedding become a major plot line in the show. Her expanded role and high-profile trans representation come at just the right time.
“It’s the largest acting role I’ve ever had in a television show (which my acting degree thanks me). It feels right on time, in a day where they’re rolling back trans rights and wanting to reduce DEI and make sure that we are limited from encouraging companies, corporations, industries, and institutions from not only featuring us, but supporting us, or even talking about us, or even referencing us.
“It feels great to have something that we can offer up as resistance. You can try to moralize, but it’s tougher to legislate art. So it feels like this is right on time and I’m just really grateful that they gave me a chance and that they gave my character a chance to tell a greater story.

Dan Amboyer and Peppermint on ‘Survival of the Thickest’ Season 2.
(Photo credit Vanessa Clifton/Netflix)
Peppermint’s expanded role also accompanies a boom in queer representation in Black-powered media. Networks like BET and Starz and producers like Tyler Perry, are now regularly showcasing queer Black folks in main story lines. What does Peppermint think is fueling this increased inclusion?
“Queer folks are not new and queer Black folks are not new and Black folks know that. Every Black person knows at least one person who is queer. We are everywhere. We have not always been at the forefront in a lot of storytelling, that’s true, and that’s the part that’s new. It’s Hollywood taking us from the place where they usually have held us Black, queer folks in the makeup room, or as the prostitute, as an extra—not that there’s anything wrong with sex work or playing a background performer. I’ve played the best of the hookers! But those [roles] are very limiting.
“Hollywood has not historically done and still does not do a very good job of, including the voices of the stories that they make money [on]. And I think they’re realizing [the need] to be inclusive of our stories and our experiences, because for a long time it was just our stories without our actual experiences. It’s also exciting. It’s dramatic. It makes money. And they’re seeing that. So I think they’re just dipping their toes in. I think that they’re going to realize that balance means having us there in the room.”
Peppermint’s activism is tireless. She has raised over six figures for prominent LGBTQ rights groups, she continues to speak around the nation, appears regularly on major media outlets addressing trans and LGBTQ issues and has been honored by GLAAD, World of Wonder, OUT Magazine, Variety, Condé Nast and more—all while appearing on screen and onstage in a long list of credits.
Now, under the Trump Administration, she doesn’t have time to take a breath.
“I wouldn’t be able to do it if it weren’t second nature for me. Of course, there are ups and downs with being involved with any social issue or conversation and politics. But I am, for now, energized by it. It’s not like I’m energized by like, ‘Ooh, I just love this subject!’ right? It’s like, ‘Oh, we’re still being discriminated against, we gotta go and fight.’
“That’s just what it is. I get energy because I feel like we are quite literally fighting for our lives. I know that is hyperbole in some regards, but they are limiting access to things like housing, healthcare, job security and not having identification. Passport regulations are being put in a blender.”
Peppermint also mentions her thoughts on the unfair mandates to remove trans military members and revoke the rights and resources from the veterans who worked their whole lives to fight for this country.
“When you strip all these things away, it makes it really difficult for people to have a life and I know that that is what they’re doing. When I look around and see that that is what is at stake, I certainly feel like I’m fighting for my life. And that’s energizing.
“The only thing that would be the most rewarding besides waking up in a utopia and suddenly we’re all equal and we’re not discriminating against each other—which probably is not happening this year—is to be able to be involved in a project like this, where we can create that world. It’s also being built by people who are a part of that story in real life and care about it in real life.”
Peppermint is clear on her point that now is the time for all of the letters of the LGBTQ community to come together. Everyone who is trans and queer should be joining the fight against the issues that affect us all.
“Just trust us and understand that our experiences are tied together. That is how and why we are discriminated against in the way[s] that we are. The people who discriminate—just like how they can’t really distinguish between somebody who’s Dominican and somebody who’s African-American—you’re Black when you’re getting pulled over. We are discriminated against in much the same way. It’s the same with being trans or queer or gender non-conforming or bi, we all have our own experiences and they should be honored.
“When laws are being created to harm us, we need to band together, because none of y’all asses is gonna be able to stop them from getting rid of marriage equality—which is next. If you roll the tape back to three years ago when somebody was trying to ask me about drag queen bans on readings in school, I was saying they’re coming for trans rights, which comes for bodily autonomy and abortion rights, which comes for gay marriage rights. Those three things will be wiped out.
Peppermint doesn’t take a pause to get fired up and call gay folk out in their obligation to return the favor to the Black trans community.
She shares with us her final thoughts.
“You cis-gender homosexuals need to stand the f–k up and understand that we are standing in front of you. It’s very difficult to understand this and know this, but so many of the rights that we have were hard fought and won by protest and by people fighting very hard for them. And many of those people in every single instance from the suffrage movement, obviously Civil Rights, queer rights, the AIDS and HIV movement—Black queer people have been there the entire time. Trans people have always been a part of that story, including Stonewall. Yes, we are using different terminology. Yes, we have different lenses to view things through, but let me tell you, if you allow us to be sacrificed before you see us go off the side, you will realize that your foot is shackled to our left foot. So, you better stand the f–k up!”
Peppermint for President!
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Musical Mondays, a mainstay in WeHo nightlife, celebrates 16 years
MuMo will be honored by the City of West Hollywood for its dedication toward the arts

MuMo will be presented with a Proclamation from the City of West Hollywood for Service to the Community.
Nearly every Monday night for 16 years, throngs of musical theatre lovers, from the LGBTQ community and beyond, have gathered together to celebrate the arts and community. MuMo has become the ideal safe and creative space with a diverse crowd that reflects the Los Angeles community. Everyone is welcome as MuMo go-ers sing along to video clips from Broadway, movies and more, while some of the crowd get up and shadow cast what’s happening on the screen.
The evening, now residing at The Chapel at The Abbey, culminates in “The Live Spot,” featuring some of the best live performances L.A has to offer. Headliners change every week, ranging from cast members from Broadway national touring shows, to local theatre members, to names from the cabaret world. This is where theatre professionals come to play.
The energy and love in the air are electric and for many, this is the one night during the week that everyone can escape and shut out the trials of the outside world and immerse themselves in love, laughs, and musical magic. MuMo fans are fierce and loyal. As part of the “Your Name Under the Stars” initiative at The Hollywood Bowl, the crowd raised funds to have brass plaques put on three seats in section Q1. These plaques read “Musical Mondays Los Angeles”, “The Fans of MuMo,” and “And one for Mahler!”
Some of Broadway’s best–including a few Tony Award winners–have joined MuMo in the audience and on stage. Broadway legends like Neil Patrick Harris, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Billy Porter, Laura Benanti, Sutton Foster, Alex Newell, Valerie Pettiford, Obba Babatunde, Lillias White, Corbin Bleu, Matt Lucas, Megan Hilty, Jai Rodriguez, Terri White, Davis Gaines, Gedde Watanabe, Michael Feinstein, Bruce Vilanch and Blake Hammond have stopped by to enjoy the show.
On April 21st, MUMO will be presented with a Proclamation from the City of West Hollywood for Service to the Community, organized through the offices of Assemblymember Rick Chavez Zbur (AD-51) and WeHo City Council Member Danny Hang.

Photo credit MUMO
The masterminds behind MuMo are Ishka Maher, a long-time and fierce ally of the queer community and the evening’s emcee, Darin Sanone, a veteran in showbiz. The two of them make a veritable team as they continue their mission to provide a safe space for all to come and celebrate the arts. We caught up with them in anticipation of their big anniversary celebration.
Ishka Maher:
What was your inspiration for starting Musical Mondays?
We started Musical Mondays because there was simply a need for a theatrical musical event in WeHo. No one else was doing it or realized there was such an interest. What it’s grown into is very organic.
Musical Mondays has such a die-hard fan base that has been long-lasting. What makes the event so popular?
Our fan base has grown with the night. They grew with us. They are a part of who we’ve become.
What is it about musicals that brings everyone together?
Musicals are emotional magic. Unlike stories told on the screen, an audience watching a musical is encouraged to react and be a part of the action. It is emotional crowdsourcing.
What has been one of your favorite memories from Musical Mondays?
Every single week, there is a moment of joy when I get to witness a performer realize they’ve rocked it. Or the fans of MuMo have the audience howling with laughter. Or the bravery of a first-time singer. Or a group of friends meeting up in their favorite corner every week. These things bring me joy. Big events like our “Wicked” show nights, I’ll always remember.
What do you want audiences from Musical Mondays to walk away with the most?
When our audience walks away I want them to have felt like they’ve been a part of something special and unique. And to feel seen and welcomed into our goofy MuMo family.
What can we expect from Musical Mondays in the future?
I’m working constantly for our unique event to stay strong and be a part of the community. I know we have a strong fan base but I love it when celebrities and casts from touring shows hang out with us. I hope for more of that.
What do you love most about working in queer nightlife?
I’ve been working in the gay community of WeHo for 35 years. I feel blessed. It’s always dynamic, and you never know what to expect.
What is your message to Musical Mondays fans?
I want MuMo Fans to know that the night is strong in this space. We have the support of the Abbey and their amazing staff, and we plan to build on what we’ve been doing so successfully. It’s my favorite night of the week!

Photo credit MUMO
Darin Sanone:
You have been on stage and behind the scenes in Weho for quite a while. How has nightlife changed the most?
I have been on stage and behind the scenes in Weho for 26 years. Nightlife has changed tremendously. When I started in Weho in 1999 the vibe was definitely the circuit vibe. The Music was fast and hard and the party scene was fast and hard. Drugs were the norm and widely used. The bars were packed and people went out to meet potential dates or relationship candidates. Now people go out to dance or drink and leave dating and relationship searches to Apps on their phones. The music has changed, and so has the culture. Hip-hop is the preferred music of the people in clubs, and weed is the preferred substance to escape. People still drink alcohol, but they usually pregame at home or in their cars, and weed is much more popular than designer drugs or alcohol. Bar owners have to really work hard to get people into the clubs and then to get them to buy drinks. Without promoters and promotions, clubs cannot survive. Since Covid-19 almost every bar [and] nightclub in WeHo has changed ownership at least once. Some have changed owners twice and are well on their way to a third owner.
You are the emcee extraordinaire for Musical Mondays. What do you love most about doing this event week after week?
It is the highlight of my week!
The thing I love most about doing the Musical Mondays every week is the people! We get the best singers in L.A every week at Musical Mondays, both in the Live Spot Singer Showcase and after for Broadway Karaoke. It is the most accepting and supportive crowd in all of WeHo. Many people can feel intimidated by the West Hollywood crowd and scene. At Musical Mondays, everyone is welcomed and embraced. No one is made to feel less than. Almost every week, I am brought to tears by the singers who grace our stage. I have been a musical theater lover my entire life and have been performing musical productions since I was a very young child. The musical is the greatest contribution to the giant umbrella of music America has made. I love Musical Mondays and am grateful to be a part of the musical magic that happens at the Chapel every Monday night!

Photo credit Darin Sanone at MUMO
In your opinion, what makes Musical Mondays so popular in the community?
I believe what makes Musical Mondays so popular in Weho is a quadruple combination! This is our secret recipe! First, we have an amazing sound team. Keith Jacobson spins the best in Broadway and movie musical clips, and Greg Watkins is the best sound engineer in all of Weho! Greg makes every singer and musician sound phenomenal. I have had the pleasure of working with Greg on shows I have produced and hosted for 23 years. There is no one better in L.A! Our Second secret ingredient is the Fans of MuMo! The Fans of MuMo evolved organically back when Musical Mondays was at Club 11. The Fans, or as we sometimes call them, the “MuMo’s,” perform lip sync comedy routines to almost every video Keith plays. They are the most unique and talented crew of actors you will find in California, and they show up every week and pour their heart and soul into every Monday night. The third secret element to our success is the Live Spot, which is where I join the show. The Live Spot is a singer showcase with professional singers from L.A and the world. We have all of the best local musical productions showcasing their shows and many of the Broadway National Tours that pass through L.A! The caliber of singers [and] actors in our Live Spot is paralleled only by Broadway in New York City. The final ingredient to Musical Mondays’ success is the Broadway Karaoke segment. You never know who might show up for our Karaoke portion! We get professional Broadway and film actors, karaoke die-hards, influencers, drag superstars, beginning singers and a rainbow of beautiful souls! It is the most supportive community you will ever find at a karaoke event. Everyone shines!
Why is celebrating musicals so important right now?
Celebrating musicals is so important right now for many reasons. Most importantly is the fact that the LGBTQ community is under assault in America right now.
Secondly, musical theater embraces and celebrates diversity. It is 100% supportive of the LGBTQ community and of all races in our globe. As America moves back toward racism and homophobia, Broadway marches forward, spotlighting racial diversity and sexual identity inclusion. Music and the musical unite people in love through song and dance.
As a performer, how do you feel with politics getting so involved with the arts right now? How do we fight back?
Politics has always been so involved in the arts. The best music is political. The best theatre is political. Politics is what fuels much of the arts. The Beatles, U2, Marvin Gaye, Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, Pink Floyd, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Crosby Stills Nash and Young, Bruce Springsteen, Joan Baez, The Sex Pistols, Green Day, The Police, Madonna, and Lady Gaga are all famous because they were and are political.
ART IS POLITICAL! MUSIC IS POLITICAL IF IT’S GOOD! THEATER IS POLITICAL IF IT’S GOOD!
We fight back by voting, protesting, boycotting and most importantly by loving.
What do you love most about working in LA queer nightlife?
What I love most about working in WeHo nightlife is the beautiful colors of the rainbow. WeHo is for everyone, not just the LGBTQ community. West Hollywood has become much more like Europe in the last 25 years. The LGBTQ community now parties with the straight community. Nobody in the younger generations cares a bit what someone does in the bedroom. The youth of America don’t segregate themselves. The only way the LGBTQ community will survive in America during this dangerous time is if our straight friends stand up for us. We must allow our WeHo spaces to be safe for all of the rainbow. If WeHo doesn’t embrace everyone, especially our straight allies, the LGBTQ community will be in concentration camps wearing pink stars or worse. The greatest power is love. WeHo nightlife is ever evolving and as Darwin teaches us, survival happens for the most adaptable.
Adapt or perish!
Embrace all of the people. Musical Mondays is for everyone Gay, Straight. Bisexual, Trans, Black, White, Brown, and Pink! We are the Pink Pony Club–never forget that.
What is your message to Musical Mondays fans?
Thank you for supporting me, live performance and the greatest contribution of America to the genre of music–the Broadway Musical.
God bless WeHo! God Bless America! God bless Musical Mondays!

Photo courtesy of MUMO
For more information on MUMO, head to MuMoWeHo.com
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No longer just a go-go dancer, Prince Joshua debuts ‘Crowned’ EP
This WeHo go-go dancer and socialite shares his life beyond the dancing box

In this new “Meet Your Locals” column, we highlight the journey of a talented local dancer and emerging musical artist as part of Los Angeles Blade’s mission to get to know our community, we continue to do a deep dive into the personalities who make up the queer culture of Los Angeles.
Across queer bars along the West Coast, audiences and nightlife enthusiasts have come to appreciate Prince Joshua’s electrifying dance performances during his go-go sets. While renowned for his impressive dance skills, Prince took a career pivot last year by reintroducing himself as a musical artist with the release of “Coochie” by Baddie Gang.
In January of this year, Prince released his debut EP, “Crowned.” The project offers a deep dive into his personal experiences within nightlife culture, touching on themes such as navigating catcalling, dating, celebrating life and more.
We sat with Prince Joshua to get the exclusive insight on his new music.
Tell us your story of moving to LA:
I had always dreamed of moving to Hollywood and being on stages entertaining people. It’s amazing to fast-forward to living that exact lifestyle with dancing at bars like the world famous Abbey [bar] every weekend and entertaining my community as my job. Growing up in a small conservative town I never felt like the world was made for someone like me, the world I grew up in was made for heterosexual people who live ordinary lives. As I grew into the eccentric and charismatic homosexual that I am, I realized I needed to live somewhere where the things I was bullied for, would be celebrated. West Hollywood was made for people like me, people who dress up to express themselves, who aren’t afraid to be unapologetically themselves, and most importantly genuinely be who they are.
What do you love most about life in LA?
I love being surrounded by people with as much ambition and dreams as I have. There’s so much room in the sky for every star to shine and it makes me so excited when I hear that my friends are working on something new to achieve their goals and dreams. We’re all out here putting in hard work to make our art stand out and be seen, being around so much creativity and creatives helps push myself to chase my own dreams and hustle to achieve them.
Many people know you for your dancing, What got you into making music?
I’ve always had a love for poetry and have written songs and poems before, but my friend Tokeyo really pushed me into making music when he asked me to feature a verse on his song “Coochie.” I have such strong love for hip-hop and rap that once I learned the process of making my own verse, I wanted to continue making more. I began finding beats and writing songs which lead me to release my first EP with six songs and three music videos.
Who is your favorite artist?
None other than the queen of rap herself – Nicki Minaj. From her undisputed discography of hits, iconic visuals and unique delivery, she has inspired all of today’s current rappers from her use of voice animation, flow switching, metaphors and punch lines all in a perfectly constructed way.
Who is your favorite queer artist?
Kim Petras has been one of my favorite pop girls since 2018. When I heard heart to break I instantly loved the artist. “Turn Off The Light” projects volumes one and two are some of my favorite works of hers. Spooky horror inspired pop music & she’s queer – it can’t get any better than that!
What do you hope to accomplish with your music?
I hope to give anyone who listens to my music the confidence to unapologetically be themselves and bust a move. I want people to dance, be themselves and not be ashamed by doing so. I used to get insecure when others would hear what music I listened to or saw me dancing or singing along, but I’ve learned something that has really reshaped my thoughts on that; no one’s opinion matters but your own, if it brings you joy and doesn’t harm anyone in the process, then go for it!
What do you love most about performing in the queer LA nightlife?
I just love the energy and fashion from my community. Seeing the incredible outfits of each individual expressing themselves their way with their own aesthetic is such a beautiful sight. When people see how hard you hustle and how much work you put into your art it’s an amazing feeling to see a crowd sing along, dance, or even stand shocked at what I’m doing on the stage. Just like Lady Gaga’s iconic, “I Live For The Applause.”
What are some misconceptions people have performers in LA?
A lot of people mistake dancers for porn stars and while they both have some similarities, not every dancer is a porn star and vice versa. Coming from a cheer background I put so many elements into my dancing and rap performances, such as kicks, splits, toe touches, etc. It’s so much more work than just having a nice body. While I respect and appreciate what porn actors do, I wish people wouldn’t put go-go dancers and porn actors in the same categories as they usually do. We entertain in very different ways, both taking a lot of hard work, but still very different worlds.
What are your favorite places to perform and why?
I love performing for music festivals. OutLoud’s WeHo Pride is one of my favorite events where I’ve not only had the opportunity to go-go dance but also perform my own music on stage. Seeing so many people in the crowd, being part of a sickening line up and getting to go all out in my ‘Princely’ way brings me a feeling of accomplishment and adrenaline like none other.
SUMMERTRAMP is another queer festival I’ve had the chance to perform at which I’m so grateful for. Every time I get to share my music to my community if I inspire just one person in the crowd to smile, dance, or embrace their inner selves then I know I’ve done my job.
How does being queer inform your music?
As I’ve stated before, this world was made for heterosexual, ordinary people. My music is made to take you out of that pouring world and into my eccentric queer and royal fantasy. Not many queer people can relate to the regular top 40 songs because they are all from a heterosexual lens. With my music, I hope that people can relate to my experiences or at least my experience as a queer person and be able to embrace their sexuality by giving them music that is made for them.
How do you balance your personal life with your professional life?
When you are chasing a dream while hustling as an entertainer your entire life is consumed with said dream. In my free time I am often stretching, working out, writing new music, or planning my next music video or photo shoot. My passion is my job so I never feel like my personal life is suffering when I’m consumed with working on what I love to do, but making sure I give myself time to rest and recharge is a vital key to ensuring I don’t burn out. I try to always give myself one day a week where I don’t focus on work or projects and allow myself to rest and recharge.
Any advice to people who want to start making music or dancing?
Just go for it! You’re always gonna be your own worst critic, but at the end of the day, you will see so much growth when you just allow yourself to put out the art that you’ve created and continue making new art. Find a support group that can help you level up whatever it is. You’re passionate about and continue pushing yourself to be better than you were the day before.
What’s next for your music career?
Right now im working on my next EP and I’m so thrilled because I know it’s better than my first. Being able to see my own growth inspires me so much to keep creating. You can also expect some collaborations with other up and coming queer artists!
What message do you have for the queer community?
Every day you wake up, you have the chance to genuinely be yourself and encourage others to do the same. While there’s so much in this world working against us, there are so many of us in the community to lean on and look for support when you feel alone. Be unapologetically yourself, stand strong with your friends and family within the community and take up as much space as you can by using your voice, sharing your art and being yourself.
To keep up with Prince, follow him on Instagram.
Rose Montoya is a renowned, award-winning, Trans, Latina, writer, advocate, educator, model, actor and viral content creator.
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Fashion icon Isaac Mizrahi brings performances to the West Coast
The legendary fashion designer and entertainment icon Isaac Mizrahi to perform in California

Isaac Mizrahi’s talents are many, equally at home in the worlds of fashion, entertainment and theatre. As a designer, he redefined elegance and innovation, making his mark with iconic collections and runway shows. But Mizrahi’s artistry doesn’t stop there. He’s captivated audiences as a Broadway star, a beloved television personality and a multifaceted performer with a gift for storytelling and humor. His unique ability to seamlessly blend wit, charm and deep creative expression, has earned him fans across every medium he touches.
Now he’s taking his talents back to the stage with an exciting new cabaret tour.
Ahead of his anticipated tour, we sat with Mizrahi to talk about his artistic process, stepping back into the spotlight and what to expect from his upcoming performances.
Can you give us a taste of your conception process? Share with us some of the inspiration for your upcoming show.
Though I think my act plays as well on a larger stage as it does in a cabaret, I think about the show I do as something that changes a lot the way a cabaret show does. My process starts with collecting ideas and writing monologues which I internalize, and which are always evolving. The music rehearsals are really important, in terms of coming up with arrangements that sound fresh. Also there’s a chemistry I have with the musicians that motivates me to express myself, to entertain them, make them laugh.
When did you first get the itch to step into the spotlight and how did it feel to step onto the stage for the first time?
You might know I was a trained performer before I was a clothing designer. I went to Performing Arts High School in NYC and I had every intention of continuing my ambition in show business but I got scared because I was a fat kid, not attractive, in a class full of gorgeous people whom I thought were much more cast-able than me. So I did the grown-up thing and subverted into the clothing business which was not a terrible idea. I’m pretty good at that too. But now I’m focusing my efforts in show business and when I step on stage and do well, the rewards are huge. It’s a dream come true, to use a very cliche phrase that in this case really nails the feeling.
Million Dollar Question: what are the most undeniable differences between performing for East and West Coast audiences?
Especially now in this crazy world we are living in, I feel very little difference between the West and East coast. I did a few shows last month in Florida and Arizona where I was treading lightly. When I started those shows I was a little scared they might not react in the way I expected but it was incredible because they were with me the entire time. But I will say those shows I did have to temper slightly. This kind of entertainment is inherently political. The minute a performer takes the stage they show who they are, it’s political whether it’s cabaret or concert. An audience knows who they are looking at. In the West [or] East coast of it right now, I’m really looking forward to being in California, a state that I feel very at home in.
You’re no stranger to reality television. Here’s a two-parter, brace yourself: Can you share one story with us about a reality tv appearance of yours that will make our readers gasp? Between RuPauls Drag Race, Project Runway and The Apprentice, which host called on the most foundation?
I will say in retrospect, having been on The Apprentice makes me gasp! And it wasn’t once I was on that show as a judge – twice. And though there’s no need to apologize, it does bear saying that even when I got the booking, I was furious at my manager for accepting it! Even before he was president, he was distasteful. But who knew?
What are some of your thoughts on today’s politics and their impact on the arts and the lives of the artists creating it?
I’m feeling devastated and exhausted not just about the policies on the arts but on every policy. And not just the obvious ones. The crazy trade wars that are being waged. This is only going to mean that everything is going to get even harder. And not just that t-shits and jeans are going to get more expensive. Tickets will be harder to sell. Food will be triple the price. What a disaster.
Fashion design, cabaret performer, actor, seems like you know how to keep yourself busy from one project to the next. That said, there’s no denying the importance of self care. What are some things you do to disconnect and reset on your downtime (assuming that you have downtime)?
I have a small place in Bridgehampton where I stay when I’m not working. I have two dogs and a husband. I love being there together with them. I love cooking. I love reading. And when I’m in the city I love going to the theatre and museums. I guess this sounds really boring.
With all that you do, I’m sure there have been some unexpected hiccups over the years. Can you share with us an experience of a time when things did not go to plan?
I feel like life is one long hiccup. When it seems obvious to the world that I’m experiencing a hiccup, as in 1998 when I closed my couture business or 2013 when I closed it for the second time, those times were weirdly freeing. Right now I feel very threatened by the current economy, by the instability of all industries and in the chaos being sown around the world. Right now, I would say, is a huge hiccup time.
Would you rather: grab brunch with Stephen Sondheim or have a spa day with Heidi Klum?
Sondheim and I were great friends. I wish he were alive to have lunch, though he wasn’t much for lunch, I suspect we would have dinner and then go see a show or play bridge… we played bridge together. I like Heidi too!
In one elaborately phrased sentence, can you tell us what to expect when we come to see your upcoming cabaret show?
In one sentence – when you come see my show you will be surprised and hopefully you will laugh and hear stories and music you did not expect to hear.
For tour information and tickets, head to his website.
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