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Former Avalon singer on coming out, getting ousted and where he is today
Michael Passons was founding member of CCM supergroup known for ‘Testify to Love’

Fans of the Christian pop group Avalon always wondered why founding member Michael Passons resigned abruptly in 2003 and then seemed to drop off the face of the earth.
There was talk of a solo album but none materialized. The official word was that he was “moving on to other things.”
The group had had a wildly successful run. Founded in the mid-’90s, Avalon released its self-titled debut album in 1996 on Sparrow and four more (“A Maze of Grace” in 1997, “In a Different Light” in 1999, “Joy: a Christmas Collection” in 2000 and “Oxygen” in 2001) as well as a hits collection with new material (“Testify to Love: the Very Best of Avalon”) in 2003 racking up 19 No. 1 singles on the Billboard gospel charts, two RIAA-certified gold albums, six Dove Awards, an American Music Award and three Grammy nominations.
Initially there was a blond male and female singer and a brunette male and female singer to round out the foursome in ways that were both visually and sonically appealing. There was regular turnover in one of the “female” slots but Passons, Janna (nee Potter) Long and Jody McBrayer formed the group’s backbone all through its early and most successful years.
After years of silence, in September, Passons came out as gay on Josh Skinner’s “Jonah and the Whale” podcast and said he was fired from the group for declining to continue with “reparative” therapy. The podcast generated significant media buzz and was aggregated in mainstream outlets like Billboard and People.
Though candid and forthcoming in the podcast, there was more to the story. Passons, a 54-year-old Yazoo City, Miss., native, was chatty and candid in a 45-minute phone interview from his Nashville home on working in the CCM (contemporary Christian music) bubble, hiding his sexuality for so many years, why he opted to come out now and about the Dove Award he nabbed from Whitney Houston at the 1998 ceremony. His comments have been slightly edited for length.

WASHINGTON BLADE: It was great to hear the podcast. It felt like you’d just kinda vanished.
MICHAEL PASSONS: I understand that people would see it that way because you’re just kind of out of the public eye when you’re not making music, not putting music out and doing interviews, and I had not done any of that pretty much in 17 years. And I didn’t really expect this podcast to get the attention that it did get. It was a bit of a surprise to me that there was so much of an interest in a 17-year-old story.
BLADE: Why did it feel like now was the right time? How did it come about?
PASSONS: It wasn’t some calculated move, I was approached by a friend who introduced me to Josh Skinner who has a podcast Jonah and the Whale and said would you like to be a guest? This particular podcast deals with an underwater moment in your life and I had previously had conversations with my family just a couple months earlier, just about my life and the truth of my life so I thought, “Well now is the perfect time,” so it really wasn’t planned out far in advance. An opportunity landed in my lap and I decided to tell the story.
BLADE: Had you been approached before?
PASSONS: Well, I’ve been pretty under the radar. I’ve been traveling the last 15 years with another Christian group, but only in the band. I play keys for Point of Grace. I wanted to keep my foot in the water … but I didn’t want to be the front guy … so I really hadn’t been approached by journalists at all until now.
BLADE: You tell in the podcast about how they came to your house for a meeting in 2003 and this all came to a head. How had they known you were gay in the first place? What led up to that meeting?
PASSONS: Well at that point I was 38 years old, I wasn’t married, I wasn’t dating, (so) rumors begin to swirl when you have that type of scenario and we had discussions about it several years before. So that’s when … they said to me I needed to go to therapy. It really was in 2002 that they wanted me to go to reparative therapy or at least go see a counselor or some guy who said his credentials were counseling gay people. So I did that to appease them but I knew it was a fruitless effort, and as I say in the podcast, that didn’t last very long. I told them I wasn’t going back to that. It had been a conversation for about a year or so before 2003.
BLADE: Did you have a pretty good relationship with them otherwise?
PASSONS: Well over the course of the eight years we were traveling together, I saw those people more than anyone else. Our schedule was so demanding and we toured almost nonstop. … So we did at the time have this family-type relationship but … groups often have a shorter shelf life than solo artists because there are multiple people with multiple goals and aspirations and so unless all four of us aligned, there were always going to be these times where one wants to do a solo deal or they think we should do this or go in this direction and so we kind of started growing apart in our vision. Jody and Janna wanted to do solo records and I thought that was something that was going to fracture the group and our brand and that did cause some tensions because the other two members really wanted to focus our efforts on the Avalon brand because that’s what was familiar to everyone. So over the years we became not as close and then of course you add something like this which kind of draws a line and you have to choose what side of the line you’re going to be on.
BLADE: Bear with me a sec, but I’m going to read you Jody’s quote to CCM Magazine in April, 2004 when he said: “We had a meeting at Michael’s house one day and he told us he was going to move on to other things. We sat and cried and felt like the rug had been pulled out from under us. Things had felt great with the new group and Michael seemed to get along and blend vocally with (then-new member) Melissa (Greene) really well. But Michael had been with us from the beginning and just felt it was time for him to do something else. It’s weird but since his departure, it seems everyone is looking for some scandalous thing to have happened there. It makes me just want to say, ‘Look, I’m sorry to disappoint you that we don’t have some juicy gossip or ‘Dynasty’ episode happening here.” Based on what you shared in the podcast, that was a gross mischaracterization of how it went down. Did you read that at the time? How did it make you feel?
PASSONS: At the time the record label and management held really right reins on us because they created the group, it was their idea. They wanted to find a group that was already in existence that was two guys, two girls. They couldn’t do it so they said, “Let’s just put one together,” so we never felt like we had ownership of much. … So when management and label say, “This is what you are to say,” it became kind of like a bullshit fest at that point. You just gotta stick with the story and that’s what Jody was doing, he was sticking with the story he was told to say. … That was just the way they chose to handle it at the time. … Interestingly enough, Jody reached out to me after the podcast aired and we had not really talked in 17 years other than bumping into each other in a restaurant and saying a quick hello. We met for about an hour we met at a park here in Nashville and just walked around and he apologized profusely and said his heart was broken when he was listening to that podcast. He was very sincere and I accepted what he had to say and I feel like our relationship has actually — there was some definite closure there as far as what I’d been feeling all of these years and so that was a good thing that came out of this and I’m glad he reached out to me.
The Blade invited McBrayer to comment. In response to the question, “Did you feel muzzled by the label?” he sent this response: “Absolutely muzzled. However I would have never ever said anything to hurt Michael’s reputation. We were asked for years about what happened and myself and my family refused to say anything that would put Michael in a bad light. We were given a statement and told to go with it. We did everything we were told at the time. … Michael knows I love him and hate how all of it went down and how he was treated by the industry. I’m so thankful he’s happy and grown beyond it all now. I will continue to protect him. He will always be family.”
BLADE: Was there any truth to what they were saying? Had you been considering a solo album?
PASSONS: No. I know my strengths and my strength was not as a solo artist. … I enjoyed the team mentality of a group. … I think fans and people outside the industry took the press release at face value but people inside the industry heard pretty quickly what had really happened. Gossip and rumors spread really quickly around Nashville so I just thought, “OK, I’m gonna just start life No. 3 here.” (chuckles)
BLADE: A few other big CCM artists eventually came out like Jennifer Knapp and Ray Boltz. Did you follow that or ever compare notes with them?
PASSONS: I don’t know either of those artists personally. I’ve never really interacted with them. I think we did a show once with Jennifer years and years ago but it was just mainly, “Hello, nice to meet you.” I applaud them for living their best life and telling their truth but I just never felt like mine was necessarily a story that needed to be told. I wasn’t a solo artist. I would get recognized occasionally. People would say, “Oh, you’re that guy who was in that group,” but I would say 80 percent of fans just knew me as the blond guy. So I didn’t feel like I had tons of name recognition or that my story mattered. But in the last few years, I wanted to be more truthful with my family so that’s really where all this came out of.
BLADE: Did anybody else from your CCM days reach out besides Jody?
PASSONS: I’ve received tons of texts and Instagram messages from friends from home, friends from college, fans, strangers. As far as the industry, some people that I haven’t seen in a while. It was very interesting. Amy Grant texted me and told me she listened and thought my story was beautiful in the way I told it and graceful and I appreciated that. Susan Ashton reached out and I haven’t seen her in years. She was very encouraging. She said, “You are seen and heard and loved.” Everything has been overwhelmingly positive.
BLADE: Did you get to know the other artists very well or have much interaction on the multi-artist tours you did like “Emmanuel” or “My Utmost”?
PASSONS: Yeah, we had a lot of time to just hang out, especially on the bus. You’re traveling late at night and everyone’s wired so you’re staying up and visiting. But we were really new artists at that time and we were thrown into a mix of all of these people that were our mentors, our heroes. We were fans of theirs and now we’re all of a sudden peers, just because of how Avalon came together. Our very first tour before we even sang a note on a record was “Young Messiah” in ’95. We had just come together weeks before and just had enough time to record one Christmas song so that we could sing that song on that tour and there we were next to 4 HIM and Point of Grace and Steven Curtis Chapman and Larnelle Harris and that was mind-blowing to be with all these great artists. But yes, everyone was very welcoming had lots of encouragement for us and advice and I actually really enjoyed those tours.
BLADE: I saw you guys once with Twila Paris. What was she like?
PASSONS: That was our first tour (the “Where I Stand Tour” in 1997). We did Young Messiah that Christmas and then we did our record, then we toured with Twila. We were definitely getting our feet wet just seeing how this industry was going to work … how we were gonna mesh as a group because we were thrown on stage and we had to find our blend. Live, It’s one thing to be in the studio and be mixed and blended but to sing live, the Twila Paris tour was really just where we began to hone our craft as a group and so yeah, that was wonderful. I had many good experiences wth that tour. We dd a spring tour and a fall tour with Twila and it was a long tour but we definitely leaned a lot.
BLADE: Is there anybody in CCM who struck you as markedly different from their public persona?
PASSONS: I feel like everyone would be a little different than what you perceive them to be because you only see a very structured view of them by the PR department of the record label. I really enjoyed getting to know Sandi Patty because when you listen to her music, you just don’t pick up on the edge that she has. She has this great sense of humor that’s a little edgy. I don’t know, my image of Sandi Patty was that she was always walking around in some state of meditation or sitting around in a prayer circle because when you’re growing up you just think of someone in such a reverent way because you respected their music so much and she was just she a cut up, she kidded around, she invited us to her home in Indiana at that point just to hang out with her family and I just I enjoyed seeing a whole different side of her. She’s a very strong personality, a strong woman and listening and singing along with her records, it was just good to see the other side of her.
BLADE: What have you been living on all these years?
PASSONS: I play for Point of Grace and also a friend of mine in town, an attorney and I actually work with her in her law practice and of course being friends with the boss, you can leave anytime and so I’m free to travel whenever I need to and want to so that allows me to hang out with Point of Grace and go where they go. 2020 has been interesting. Since March, we’ve only had two shows and they were very small, so it’s been really interesting year for sure.
BLADE: What denomination did you grow up in?
PASSONS: Southern Baptist. A little country church in Mississippi.
BLADE: Are there still elements of Baptist or evangelical theology you struggle with? Queer or otherwise?
PASSONS: I’m past struggling with it. Of course, it’s something I think about often but I don’t struggle with it any longer. … I’ve definitely got a different view of spiritualism. I don’t consider myself religious but I do believe in God and so I do have a spiritual life but it just doesn’t involve organized religion and that’s just where I’ve landed.
BLADE: But do you still believe the Christianity basics — Jesus died for our sins and rose on the third day and so on or is it a broader thing for you?
PASSONS: It’s a broader spiritual thing and like I said in my previous interview, I’m just in this place of my prayer to God is show me what is true. I’m not gonna close my mind to anything, I’m not going to say, “Oh this is what I was taught and I don’t believe that anymore,” I just want to step back and rebuild all those boxes, rebuild what my spirituality is, kind of like just implode it to ground level and let’s start again. I was taught by very well-intended people. All my Sunday School teachers in that little church, they didn’t have any malice, they were well-intended people teaching what they believed. We were spoon fed, so at some point in your life you have to just decide of all that information you took in, what do you really believe? I had to get to the point where I was OK disagreeing and not believing some of the things I was taught. it wasn’t disrespectful to those people, I just have to find my own way.
BLADE: Do you think the conservative, white evangelical world will ever become openly accepting of LGBT people? Is it a lost cause or could it be a whole different story in another generation?
PASSONS: I think there is hope. I’ve seen so much progress in Christian circles just in my lifetime that I never thought I would see. It’s pockets, it’s not widespread, but … I think there is hope. A lot of things used to be justified with scripture that they eventually came around on. (Author) Peter Gomes calls it “the last prejudice of the church.” … After I left, Avalon recorded a song called “Orphans of God,” which I thought was interesting that they were singing it because I was definitely an outcast to them. But now my friend (out country singer) Ty Herndon and Kristen Chenoweth are going to cover it for a Christmas release as a duet and they asked Melissa Greene and I to sing backing vocals on it so now it will take on a whole new meaning. It was a really nice, full circle moment.
BLADE: Did you keep up with what Avalon was doing much after you were kicked out?
PASSONS: No. It would have put me in a bad headspace.
BLADE: Have you had many boyfriends? Are you in a relationship now?
PASSONS: I am. I’m with a wonderful guy now and it’s going well.
BLADE: Not married though?
PASSONS: No, not married (laughs).
BLADE: How long was it before you were comfortable dating guys?
PASSONS: It took me a while, because when all that went down, I internalized a lot of things and I thought, “Well this is my fault,” type of thing. It really took many years for me to just work through all the junk and work through that cloud in my head and so it wasn’t like some big unleashing. It wasn’t like I left Avalon and just started living my best life, it definitely took awhile to repair the hurt that happened from those several years when Avalon was ending and all the things I went through at that point.
BLADE: Do you know of other LGBT people in CCM who are not out?
PASSONS: Yeah, I do. I feel for them because I know that panicky feeling I used to have, that someone might catch on. … But I think a lot of conservative Christians might be naive as to how many people are gay or bi in their church. You learn from a very early age to be a good actor.
BLADE: Who was your favorite Avalon producer to work with?
PASSONS: Brown Bannister produced most of the records when I was in the group. He’s, you know, such an icon in our industry and I have so much reverence for him and so much respect, so it was an honor to work with him. He actually brought out the best in me. There was something about just his people skills and he was just so kind and thoughtful in how he spoke with you and guided you through the recording process. He just took the time, even just to find the right microphone for me, because the mic in the studio can make a world of difference. I remember going through five or six mics before we found the right one. A lot of producers are just like, “OK let’s get this going, all right that’s great on to the next one.” He just took time to make it right and I appreciated that.
BLADE: How long did it take to make those albums on average?
PASSONS: When it came time to record, we would try to just block off weeks where we would just go in there and do vocals, vocals, vocals vocals and really mainly weekdays because we would go out on the weekends and do one-off, you know, weekend dates here and there. So we wouldn’t obviously do a new record in the midst of a tour because we’d want to tour the new record but during our one-offs we would get in there and try to get in it done and probably over the course of a month and a half, two months, we would have everything done.
BLADE: How involved were you all with the vocal arrangements? I always loved that outro and all those layers on “We Are the Reason,” for instance. How did you come up with all those intricate lines?
PASSONS: We had a great vocal vocal producer named Michael Mellett and he had been a studio singer in Nashville a long time and had toured with Billy Joel as a background singer. He would come in and help arrange our parts and he was amazing at it. And I remember he did work on our Christmas record and I remember that outro those alternate melodies that he helped us come up with, I loved that too. I felt like that really updated the song. It’s interesting because when we did it it was 20 years old and now it’s been 20 years since we did it, so it needs to be done again now. But it was my favorite song growing up. I used to sing it with an accompaniment tape at my little country church when I was a kid.
BLADE: Yeah, I love it too. Did (songwriter) David Meece ever say anything after you guys cut it?
PASSONS: Indirectly. I think he might have said something to Brown but we heard that he liked it.
BLADE: Who’s a celebrity who would exemplify your type?
PASSONS: (laughs) My type, wow. I’m definitely attracted to someone who is confident but not cocky, someone who has sensitivity but is not overly sensitive, someone who’s just confident in themselves, that’s a big attraction to me. If I were to throw out a celebrity I see a lot of those qualities in, and maybe I’m wrong, but someone like Bradley Cooper.
BLADE: Did you guys in Avalon have any say in choosing singles?
PASSONS: We were included in conversations but I feel like ultimately the label got what they wanted. There’s one little battle that we won and in retrospect not just one, but I just remember this instance, where the label disagreed with us about what we should call our second record and had we listened to the label, we probably would have sold a lot more. They wanted us to call it “Testify to Love” and we had no idea when we were naming the record and about to release it that that would be the one song that Avalon would be known for or that it be our biggest song ever. We thought “A Maze of Grace” was such a clever title. They disagreed but they let us do what we wanted. But who knew “Testify to Love” would become such a huge song for us?
BLADE: Was (Sparrow president) Bill Hearn around much?
PASSONS: We would see him periodically and even his father Billy Ray, who started the company, they’re both deceased now, but they were very approachable. They weren’t always in our meetings because we were more with A&R and publicity and stylists but when they were around, they were very approachable, very hands on.
BLADE: When you win a Dove Award, did you each get one or just one for the group?
PASSONS: At the ceremony, just one is given but then they mail three more to you like a month later.
BLADE: Where do you keep yours?
PASSONS: I have a little study/office that I’m sitting in right now. I just have them on a shelf along with some pictures and mementos and things I like to keep out. The interesting story about one our Dove Awards is our first Dove Award for new artist of the year and that was in 1998 I believe, and we got new artist of the year at the 29th Dove Awards and that was the year that Whitney Houston performed with Dottie Rambo … and we were backstage after we won doing a press junket so I missed her performance and I’m a huge Whitney Houston fan, like I would rival anyone else saying they’re a huge Whitney Houston fan. (laughs) She’s pretty much my all-time favorite artist. So after the show some press people wanted to take a photo of Whitney holding a Dove Award. She didn’t have one so Jody was standing close by with his and they said, “Can we have your Dove Award for a picture,” and so Whitney took our Dove Award and had her picture made with it and of course that was the only one we got that night and our manager said, “OK I’m gonna take that to the office and hold it ’til the others come in and you all can come by and pick them up,” and so before he could get to it, I got that particular one and took a Sharpie and made a mark on the bottom of it and the day that our manager said, “OK you can come by and pick up the Dove Awards they’re all in,” I was first one in there and I picked them all up and looked for the one I made the mark on because I wanted the one that Whitney had held. So I’m holding it right now, I’ve got that one in my hand and I always think of Whitney.
BLADE: Who were your favorite CCM acts growing up? Or did you listen to more pop?
PASSONS: I listened to a lot of pop and and country. My family is from a rural Mississippi town so country music was really most of what was on the radio and I love that old ’70s country. I still listen to it just because it has a lot of good memories. But I didn’t really know there was such a thing as CCM other than, you know, like Bill and Gloria Gaither-type stuff until I was in high school and someone handed me a tape of “Age to Age” by Amy Grant and that just lit a fire in me like I had no idea this type of thing existed, this is what I want to do. And of course I’ve just been I was a fan of Amy Grant from that day on and she was definitely a huge influence in the way I would sing music, the way I would write music, I would listen to interviews of her and I would just — she was a great teacher in that respect of just knowing how to respond to questions, how to react to people, just her demeanor, how she handled herself, she was definitely a role model.
BLADE: So that must have been mind-blowing to work with her producer (Brown Bannister) all those years later.
PASSONS: Yeah, definitely. And then her text last week, yeah, that was a nice moment.
BLADE: Why didn’t the more progressive Christian denominations ever have their own version of CCM? There are a few fledgling queer gospel singers out there but nothing like the machine that CCM was. Maybe they didn’t care as much if their kids listened to Metallica or whatever?
PASSONS: I think your theory might hold some weight, just that the conservative Christians were looking for an alternative for them and their families to listen to. One thing I think there probably wouldn’t have been a market in the liberal circles to sustain the industry, they wouldn’t have purchased the CDs and the music. It was the conservatives who made this a business and the Christian music business is a business. You have to be making money to be in CCM, that’s the dichotomy that I’ve always wrestled with. CCM depended on Becky, and I’ll tell you who Becky is. Becky is the pseudonym for their target audience. So any meeting we were in, it was always asked, “What would Becky buy, would Becky like this song?” And Becky is a 20-, 30- or 40-something conservative Christian female and she was the target audience because she was the ones buying the CDs and the tapes and downloading the music and so I think that’s maybe why the conservative church has kind of a market on CCM music.
BLADE: Is she related to Karen?
PASSONS: (laughs) That’s funny. If they’re not related, they’re probably best friends.
BLADE: When your bandmates came to your house that day, did it feel like it was coming from a place of love and concern or did it feel like a power play? Like they were trying to oust you?
PASSONS: It did feel like a power play. There were some very complicated personalities in the group and so it definitely — I did not feel much love that day.
BLADE: To me, it was like when Florence got kicked out of the Supremes. They could go on and do whatever they want, but without Florence, it wasn’t the Supremes. Without you, it wasn’t Avalon. The one female singer didn’t matter so much because she always changed. That was like the new season of “Charlie’s Angels,” you always knew she would change. But when you left, it was never the same.
PASSONS: I appreciate that, I’ve heard several say that and it’s always good to know that my contribution is something that was missed.

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Jason DePuy dishes on his time on ‘Big Brother’ and how the community came out to support
Known as a messy player in the house, DePuy often had to fight to stay positive and stand up for himself.
One week after Jason DePuy (known as Salina EsTitties on RuPaul’s Drag Race) was bullied and eventually evicted from CBS’s Big Brother house, the queer drag performer is still emotionally processing his feelings.
During his 24 days in the reality TV competition, De Puy often had a rough time, with fellow cast member Kamuela “Kamu” Kirk making homophobic comments and feeling isolated.
In a conversation with Head of Household Rick Devens, Kirk left viewers upset when he said, “Bro, miss me with the drag stuff. Miss me. I’m still an MMA guy, and I have an image to uphold.”
Former Big Brother contestant Frankie Grande called his words ‘homophobic’ and ‘gross.’ Another comment, where Kirk said he wanted to end DePuy’s career, also received strong backlash online.
Now that he is out of the house, DePuy has been shocked and deeply touched by the love from Big Brother fans and former contestants. We chatted with DePuy for this Blade exclusive.
“To know that my community was rallying for me outside the house was the most wonderful thing. Seeing how much people were just wanting to shower me with love was incredible. Even my friends, I went to say hi and give them a hug, and they’re like, ‘Uh, uh, come here.’ They had to hold me and let me know America was feeling for me in a way that I had no idea.”
He added: “To see that reality was just overwhelming, and I couldn’t ask for more.”
Known as a messy player in the house, DePuy often had to fight to stay positive and stand up for himself.
“No one was coming to my rescue. In real life, it’s easy to block people, but in the house, I didn’t have that luxury, so I had to find it within myself to learn how to speak up for myself in a way that wasn’t nasty or biting. I didn’t attack anyone personally, which is what I was the most proud of.”
DePuy acknowledged he has had a history of putting his foot in his mouth when it came to certain Drag Race moments, being in the public eye, and making a fool of himself. “I’ve learned my lessons; to see how I handled myself in the Big Brother house was amazing.”
While DePuy has been sober for 14 and a half years and has a strong spiritual foundation, in the Big Brother house, he often felt like he couldn’t communicate what he was feeling.
“As a queer person, a person of color, a drag queen, I have to be very careful about how I move. I don’t have the luxury or privilege to just act a certain way or say a certain thing. I have to be very careful; I’m representing me. But who I am is a Latino, a person of recovery, a drag queen, a queer person in the community. I know that there’s a lot of pressure that comes with that. I felt it was safer for me to sit there and just breathe than try to do anything crazy.”
He continued: “I couldn’t speak to the personal attack that was happening in the house, because in my mind I was like, ‘no, this is a game, and I have to play it, put that aside.’”
Not only can viewers watch the episodes, but they can also watch the live feeds of what’s happening. Seeing the fans’ social media posts from people who had watched the episodes and the live feeds also contributed to DePuy realizing that his feelings of discomfort were valid.
“To know that I wasn’t delusional in those moments, that others could see what was happening, has been a lot to take in. Fans and friends let me know the comments made went beyond the game…I’m like, ‘Oh, so my instincts were correct.”
One of the most poignant moments on the live feeds occurred when DePuy was crying, alone in his room, and said how he missed his gay community.
“I really missed my friends. I missed my queer community. We’re so colorful. We’re so loud. We’re so vibrant. We speak off the cuff, and we’re very truthful and honest with how we speak, and it’s fun. We have fun lingo.”
DePuy had to censor his expressions in the house. “Because I can say one thing, but it can mean something different to straight people than it does with my queer brothers and sisters. So, there was a sense of code-switching that I had to do. I had to even put aside some of my queerness in a way sometimes to fit in.”
DePuy was thrilled to be the very first drag queen to ever be cast on the show.
“I’m honored to have been chosen. There’s a million drag queens out there, and to know that I was a contender to come in the house and not even be in drag was like a wow for me. I’m over here in Hollywood, running around these streets with a wig and heels just to make a dollar to survive, and I have to rely on drag to do that. And then to be offered this opportunity and be given the privilege to say, ‘hey, you don’t have to put on the wig for you to be valuable here,’ is just insane to me.”
Prior to his shows, DePuy has been hustling for 15 years, flipping burgers and doing drag at night.
“That has been my life these past since I was 17. So it’s been a long journey; the opportunity to do this out of drag is a very big blessing. I’m honored and grateful to be the representation of my community.”
If you missed Jason on Big Brother: Unlocked, the episode can be seen on CBS.com. He will be back on the show for the finale.
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What ‘Queer Eye for the Straight Guy’ can still teach us today
‘Queer Eye’ and ‘House of Stassi’ producer David Collins on the lasting impact of the hit series.
It’s hard to imagine where LGBTQ+ television would be without Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, the trailblazing reality series that premiered in 2003.
Each episode of this Emmy-winning show saw a group of gays converge on a struggling man — the titular straight guy — and offer nonstop wit while organizing his endlessly messy life. This program about a group of homosexual helpers took the world by storm, furthering the love of gay television begun by shows like Will and Grace but bringing it into the growing medium of reality TV. Of course, it wasn’t perfect; Queer Eye for the Straight Guy often cast its experts less as multi-faceted queer folks and more as sources of early 2000s gay jokes. But despite these pitfalls, it’s undeniable that the original program explored the realities of being gay in a way audiences had never seen before. It was a monumental piece of LGBTQ+ representation, and its success is largely owed to the man who fought to get this show made: producer David Collins.
Collins spoke with the LA Blade from his Los Angeles home, where he’s spent the past few years living with his husband and his two daughters. David spoke fondly of his many years in this industry, detailing how it feels to be such a huge part of LGBTQ+ history. He explained, however, that he didn’t initially set out to alter how queer people were seen on television. “I never went out to make gay television,” said the producer. “I went out to tell great stories.”
“I’m a hillbilly from Ohio, and I thought I was going to be an editor,” David laughed, looking back on his career. “I interned at the Cincinnati Film Office, and I showed up to work my very first day, and the film commissioner was like, ‘Get to the airport right now and pick [someone] up. Don’t talk to them.’ Well, I ended up picking up Jodie Foster!” Collins raved about this car ride that changed his life, with the pair becoming friends and Foster pushing him to become a producer who puts their own media out into the world. Eventually, he did just that, and after learning about the wild new genre that was reality TV, he pitched a series to Bravo: Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
“I was obsessed with Esquire magazine, and they had five categories: fashion, grooming, interior design, culture, food, and wine. So I gave them each a gay, and the Fab Five were born!” Collins said, describing how viewers quickly fell in love with the concept and earned the program four seasons and an Emmy for Outstanding Reality Program. He spoke about how proud he felt creating a show that centered real gay people, not characters in a story, remembering, “To stand in the middle of Times Square and look up and see this massive billboard with the original Queer Eye guys…it wasn’t even a dream come true, because it wasn’t a dream I had even fathomed.”
With his series, people were watching actual gay men and learning the realities of a queer culture that had always been portrayed as a danger to society. Collins tearfully recounted hearing about queer people using the show as a way to connect with their family, saying, “What I’m most proud of that’s come out of Queer Eye [are] the conversations that that series has allowed to have people around their kitchen tables with little boys in Ohio like me who were scared to death that they were going to burn in hell because their pastor was telling them that they were a sinner.”
Now, for all of its trailblazing, the program wasn’t wholly positive; the show’s focus on the central ‘straight guy’ meant it rarely delved into the lives of its Fab Five. Collins regretted that lack of depth but understood that earlier audiences weren’t accustomed to such a nuanced look into queerness — that would have to wait til the reboot.
When Queer Eye came out in 2018, audiences were introduced to not only a new Fab Five, but a whole new format (that didn’t rely on a straight person). Now, the series would assist queer folks and allies alike, spotlighting these individuals as well as the queer experts helping them improve their lives. The show has been applauded for its amazing makeovers, but where it truly stands out is its representation, offering a look into individuals across the country and the struggles — along with the immense joys — of being queer in America today.
Fans were disappointed to hear that Queer Eye would be ending after its tenth season, but David stressed that they wouldn’t have to be sad for long. “What I will say to you is this: hang tight,” he teased. “There’s yet another version of Queer Eye to come, and we’re working on that now.” In the meantime, Collins is continuing his work with new shows like the House of Stassi, a series centered on Vanderpump Rules’ prolific waitress. He’s excited about these new projects, but emphasized that his heart will always belong to Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and all that it continues to do for viewers 19 years after its finale.
“It’s not about your new outfit or your new couch or your new whatever. It’s about your humanity,” said Collins, speaking about the core lesson he hopes people take away from the Queer Eye franchise. “It’s about seeing yourself. It’s about dignity. It’s about how confidence breeds success.”
A valuable message that queer folks can benefit from even more now than they did in 2003. And, while it’s unclear just what lies ahead for this franchise, one thing is for sure: Queer Eye for the Straight Guy helped people everywhere understand the power that exists within our queerness. It’s a truth that has impacted countless pieces of LGBTQ+ television today, and it’s one that Collins promises to keep alive through whatever hit show he creates next.
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Tello Films opens the door to Christmas in July
With ‘The Christmas Writer’ leading its July catalog, Tello Films wants audiences to feel cozy in the summer heat
Tello Films is treating July like one long advent calendar, opening the door to a catalog of LGBTQ+ holiday romance. So sit back, drink some hot cocoa, grab a blanket, and visit the world of LGBTQ+ holiday romance.
The enduring LGBTQ+ streaming platform is celebrating “Christmas in July” by revisiting its holiday catalog, with the 2025 sapphic rom-com The Christmas Writer at the forefront. The film follows Noel Robbins, a renowned lesbian Christmas author, who struggles with grief, loss, and writer’s block surrounding the holidays. Along the way, she meets Callie, who helps her rediscover her passion for writing – and for helping her move forward.
For Tello Films founder and CEO Christin Baker, the company’s holiday catalog began with a mission: to address what was missing in seasonal entertainment. “The biggest thing that was missing was lesbian leads,” Baker tells the Blade. “We existed in holiday movies, but we were usually side characters of part of a family ensemble.”
Baker makes it clear that, although lesbians appeared in holiday films, they remained largely absent from the romantic leads at their center. Drawing from her own experience, she explains to the Blade why this inclusion matters: “Those familiar holiday rom-com tropes are comforting for a reason, and our community deserved to see ourselves in those stories too.”
The Christmas Writer, however, also explores the difficulty of being boxed into a particular kind of storytelling. For example, the film highlights how Noel feels trapped by the expectation that she must continue writing Christmas romances even as grief prevents her from writing. Baker explains that Noel’s desire to move beyond an established creative identity mirrors her own experiences with Tello.
“I absolutely love a great lesbian Christmas rom-com, and I’m incredibly proud of what we’ve built at Tello. But I also love thrillers,” Baker said. “I’ve made a few lesbian thrillers that didn’t perform nearly as well as our holiday films, and I’ll admit that was frustrating. It can feel like audiences – and sometimes the industry – want you to stay in the lane you’ve become known for, even when you have other stories you’re passionate about telling.”
The tension may feel familiar to LGBTQ+ audiences accustomed to labels that come with expectations about how they should act or what they should create. Although Baker has found it difficult to move beyond the genre for which Tello is best known, she continues pursuing other creative interests – even when those projects attract smaller audiences. Still, that frustration does not diminish the significance of the holiday catalog she has built.
Tello has developed what it describes as “the largest collection of lesbian holiday films available on any streaming service.” Its catalog includes A Holiday I Do, Christmas at the Ranch, Merry & Gay, The Holiday Club, Last ExMas, and many other seasonal titles.
Part of the appeal of Baker’s films is that their plots do not center on whether others will accept the characters’ identities. LGBTQ+ films are typically associated with stories of rejection and conflict surrounding sexuality. Instead, Baker intentionally creates worlds in which the LGBTQ+ community is already accepted. “The conflict isn’t that someone is lesbian or nonbinary,” Baker says, “Their mom accepts them. Their grandmother accepts them. Their town accepts them… I want audiences to experience what it feels like to be embraced without conditions, even if it’s just for the length of a movie.”
Tello also expands representation to aspiring writers – even those who have been rejected by studios. According to Baker, all of the platform’s holiday romantic comedies originated with a new writer rather than an established screenwriter with easy access to a studio. “A studio executive may never read their script. At Tello, that’s exactly whose script we want to read.”
Baker is especially proud that Tello has pursued a mission distinct from Hollywood: “One thing I’m incredibly proud of is that Tello has never tried to compete with Hollywood.” The familiar formula remains, but the platform uses it to create opportunities for filmmakers – and for communities the entertainment industry has historically overlooked.
As July gives way to August, Tello’s holiday catalog offers more than a simple escape from the summer heat. It imagines a snowy world in which LGBTQ+ audiences can find representation on screen and opportunities to tell their own stories behind it.
“That’s what Tello has always been about: giving our community not just representation on screen, but a pathway behind the camera as writers, directors, and filmmakers.”
Check out Christmas in July at www.TelloFilms.com.
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Ellen Greene returns to ‘Little Shop of Horrors’ for the film’s 40th anniversary
Ellen Greene reflects on her role as Audrey and her support and activism for the LGBTQ community, which started at the beginning of her career
It is 40 years since the release of the movie version of the Off-Broadway show, Little Shop of Horrors. To celebrate the 40th Anniversary, Ellen Greene, who of course originated the role of Audrey, is embarking on a nationwide tour, arriving in Riverside, CA at the Fox Performing Arts Center on Friday, August 14. The evening will include a screening of the film preceded by a Q&A with Ms. Greene and a performance of the enduring hit, “Somewhere That’s Green.”
It is not difficult to appreciate why Ellen Greene was the perfect choice for Audrey or why the character has such an enduring appeal to audiences and, maybe more so, LGBTQ+ fans. It would be easy to underestimate or dismiss Audrey as a simpleton and victim. Yet, the character is “way more complicated than that,” according to Greene. “She’s been engaged in life, she’s seen stuff, and she’s not someone who hasn’t been around. She knows what it’s like to be different, to feel shunned and not part of a plural. So, I guess, you know, like minds attract. Audrey is seeking love, but life has told her she doesn’t deserve it. But she’s kind and talented and compassionate and appreciates people for who they are.” There appears to be a lot of Greene imbued in Audrey.
Greene has been an active and devoted ally to the LGBTQ+ community for decades. In fact, I first met her when she agreed to do a benefit for Los Angeles’ LGBTQ+ theatre company, Celebration Theatre, twelve years ago. When reminded about it, she recalled all the details without hesitation. “Well, doing that was a great memory for me.” She went on to recall that her support and activism started at the beginning of her career. “My first friend in New York happened to be gay (back in 1972). And, so many of the people around me from the beginning of my career were gay men. My first job was a bus and truck (show) where I learned several important things that I am not going to go into!” She described meeting and working with so many gay men, “all of the gigantic talents, all of these people that nobody knows, but to me they were huge and magnificent.” And then, in the 1980s, the AIDS crisis emerged and one by one she found herself having to be there for her friends, to care for them, to accompany them, just be there or help them. “It’s made me aware of how important it is to appreciate, to be kind and be loving and tell and show people who matter to me how much I cherish them.”
Not many actors have originated a role in an Off-Broadway or Broadway musical, never mind one that also appears on the big screen or endures for 40 years. In fact, Little Shop of Horrors is currently experiencing another life at the Westside Theatre in NYC. Ellen shared with us some thoughts and memories about playing Audrey and making the film after so many years.
Tell us about creating Audrey, and did you change anything for the film?
Uh, well, first off, a lot! I always do instinct first, so it’s how it feels to be the character inside, to create a soul. It becomes a presence in my body, and so you see what comes out as a result. Audrey is also a sexual being. The first Audreyism that comes out in the film is the squeak. That came out of a rehearsal with my original Seymour when he said something differently, and it came out of me in response. In the play, Audrey often plays things bigger because she’s performing to the audience. In the film, she’s playing to Seymour (or the other characters), so this was more revealing and intimate and shows how she reacts to him as a sexual being. Then, when we did “Somewhere That’s Green,” it goes into her dream of a home and family and what makes a house a home. You get to see the child inside with the dream of what a happy life looks like for her as a woman.
What was it like working with the creative team behind the film?
There was so much British talent behind the scenes! We filmed it at Pinewood Studios. Frank (Oz, the Director) was very kind to me. He let me be there on set, so I got to see things like Levi Stubbs recording. It created a camaraderie over the 9 months of hard work. Paul Anglin did my makeup. He started out trying the usual heroine makeup, but we wound up using the stage makeup because he didn’t feel the usual was playing right. The crew was just stunning. A valuable thing I learned in the theatre was leaving your ego at the door. On a film, you do your little job, and everyone is a cog in a big wheel, so everyone is important. When you have so much talent, special things happen. Working with Alan (Menken) and, of course, Howard (Ashman, who died of AIDS-related complications in 1991) was special. Howard was one of the last “book writers.” He knew what he did, he did well. He was a writer, he was a director, and he was a lyricist. And he was very smart, and he was one of my dearest friends, and one of the wonderful things about this tour and about people loving Little Shop, it’s like that bell rings and you remember he’s an angel and he got his wings.
The movie has an incredible cast. Can you share what it was like to be a part of this cast?
Unbelievable! It helped that I knew many of them. John Candy. Oh my God. I did his last film. And SCTV. Rick Moranis, he was wonderful and funny. And Tichina (Arnold), Tisha (Campbell) and Michelle (Weeks) were all so young. And I took them under my wing, and I love them, and they were so great to sing to. During “Suddenly Seymour,” I know I’m singing to Rick, but I was also singing to the girls. Singing in the opening shot was so magical, and they were amazing. Then there’s Vincent Gardenia, the best Mushnik ever. He was just the kindest. He was so great in the role and so great to work with. All the minor characters, John Candy, Jim Belushi, Steve Martin! Amazing talents. Steve and I became great friends. He’s a brilliant talent. He knew me from before; he saw me in the play when he came with Mary Tyler Moore!
Any last thoughts about the legacy of Little Shop of Horrors as you embark on the 40th Anniversary Tour and why audiences continue to connect to this story?
It’s really a story that we can all relate to. We relate to these characters, this mystical, magical world full of whimsy that seems very simple but is complex, and it has deep underpinnings that reflect our own lives. Yes, it’s larger than life, but these people are real, and we all desire the same things. We don’t want to be treated badly or abused. We want to have a place where we feel comfortable and can be our authentic selves. Be loved and to love and to have a nest that feels like home.
Somewhere That’s Green.
Little Shop of Horrors 40th Anniversary Screening
Fri • Aug 14, 2026 • 7:00 PM Fox Performing Arts Center, Riverside, CA
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Laverne Cox Is ‘Transcendent’ At Madame Tussauds Hollywood
The actress/activist celebrates her new book with her history-making statue
At this point, Laverne Cox has made history countless times. The Orange Is the New Black star was the first trans woman to get nominated for an Emmy (as an actor), subsequently win an Emmy, and become a series regular. She is also the first transgender person to receive a wax figure at international celebrity haven Madame Tussauds.
Now she’s poised to share her history with a memoir, the aptly titled Transcendent. We were on the scene as she celebrated this last Pride with Madame Tussauds, which unveiled her statue now with a fresh outfit and held an exclusive signing at their rooftop restaurant and bar. That’s right, you can dine with statues of Zendaya, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Will Smith.

She took time to talk with the Blade about everything from the writing process to Pride, and in true Laverne Cox fashion, was able to quickly list off important anti-trans legislation, quote bell hooks, and offer inspiring words of wisdom.
Watching Cox meet her wax figure, now decked out in the Collina Estrada gown she wore to the 2022 People’s Choice Awards, was an introduction to the dynamic icon that Cox is. She makes a joke about being 10 pounds thinner after the 10 years since her statue was first released. She quickly follows up with, “I’ve internalized my own fat phobia. It’s about embracing the parts of me that are not perfect. I wasted so much time being hard on myself. I could have just been living life.”
Cox is a testament to the power of words and the importance of intersectionality. It’s never lost on her that her platform is an opportunity to speak truth to power. She’s also just authentically herself as she quips, “I was not going to send them anything from my Mugler collection.” The actress was decked out in Mugler and famously collects fashions by French designer Thierry Mugler.
“It’s hard to put into words. All these things people don’t know about me are now in print. It’s all out there and not about my ego.” Cox adds. “That is incredibly humbling. Me being humble is the best possible thing. It makes me right-sized. How my life can be of service to someone else, this is the biggest reminder of that.”
Her special Pride message to the community was educational and nuanced. Cox is always quick to put things into a political context, which, given where we are, is important. She starts,
“It’s rough right now. This regime is attempting to take away a lot of rights of LGBTQIA plus people. Overnight, 1700 or so trans people in Kansas found out their driver’s licenses were no longer valid because they’re trans. They had to get new IDs that reflected the gender they were assigned at birth. IDS actually should reflect who you are.”
“I’m old enough to remember when trans people weren’t able to change their passports, and the nightmares that I heard from trans people when they would travel, they were like, ‘Well, this says male, and you’re a woman. What’s going on?’ And the horrors of being strip-searched, being accosted, and arrested. So there’s like lots of dangers.”
She was quick to highlight the importance of this in a historical context. She adds, “There are over 1000 anti-trans bills that were introduced on a federal level, and over 700 that were introduced on the state level in 2025 alone. Trans Legislation Tracker is a great website for people who ask what laws, what policies.”
After the important historical and political context she brings it back, “So the message for the fam is that we are built from resilience, we are built from a legacy of ancestors who, in the face of all kinds of discrimination, all kinds of criminalization, found a way to be there for each other, found a way to access healthcare legally or by other means, and we created underground railroads of resources. We were there for each other, and we found a way to be joyous to create some of the most amazing culture the world has seen in the face of all kinds of discrimination; that’s our legacy.”
“So we should remember that we’re resilient people and we’re gonna get through this and we have to do it together, and whenever I think about that, I’m invigorated.” There’s a fundamentally hopeful spiritual tone to much of Cox’s words. She’s always been the type to educate and illuminate, but her hope for the future and her joy are palpable. Could it be the transcendent nature of writing a memoir?
About the title of her book, Cox adds, “I was a freshman in high school, and discovered the concept of transcendentalism. I was like, ‘This is cool. This is what I’ve been going through my whole life.’ Transcend other people’s expectations or limitations that they may put on me because of where I was born, what I was assigned at birth, because I was black, because I was working class.”
Cox explains more of the spiritual context: “I want to transcend. It is a very spiritual thing for me. When you peel away all the armor and all defenses that I’ve put up to survive. Yes, identity is important because of history, Race matters, gender matters, sexual orientation matters because of oppression in politics. But we are all spirits beyond all this stuff, and for me, I want to exist in that anointed, transcendent space beyond all of these categories.”
Ever the mindful orator, she’s quick to clarify that this transcendence is not at the expense of her identity; she continues, “I love my blackness, my transness, not because of the historical context of it, but because of the community of it. God, to be black and trans at the same time is iconic. All of black trans lingo is mainstream now, like, and just so many other things. It’s iconic to be black and trans from a historical perspective, from a community perspective. I’m also more than that. That transcendent anointed spirit is what it’s about, you know?”

Despite her career in acting, Cox has always wielded her words with the precision of the perfect intersection of a diplomat, professor, and an Olivia Pope-level PR executive. When asked about the power of words, she shares, “One of my favorite quotes from bell hooks is from her book, Yearning; it’s ‘language is also a place of struggle.’ …The oppressed struggle with language to find ourselves, and our words are not without meaning; they’re an action, a resistance. So language is so powerful, and when we can be exacting and precise with language, it can be something that’s very liberatory and really free.” It’s worth noting that she quoted the entire paragraph from hooks.
She adds, “I remember finally embracing the word trans, which I talk about in the book, how liberating it was for me to finally not be running from who I was, who I knew I was my entire life, but just being in a space of acceptance that language gave me. Accepting that language for myself gave me freedom, a clarity that I didn’t really have before.”
So what was the writing process like for such a gifted speaker? “Torture. That’s my one-word answer. It was torturous, because I didn’t want to write a book and not talk about what really happened and how difficult it was, particularly my childhood, and I didn’t want to bs if I was going to write a memoir.”

Despite the toil of writing the book, she’s happy it’s able to help the people who read it. She adds, “But now that the book is out and people are reading, and I’ve gotten so many messages from friends, acquaintances, colleagues over the years who’ve read it in two days, and like they were like, I cried, you know, and I was so moved, I couldn’t put it down. I connected because of this part of your story or that part of your story, and it’s just, and it’s giving some people language for things that they went through in their childhood, like dissociation, that they didn’t have the language for, and that’s really cool.”
Her parting words, like so many that she shares, are inspirational: “In these times, getting to share space with my people is so revitalizing. The love we have for outsiders and justice and freedom is everything.”
Transcendent is now available for purchase, and her revamped statue is on display at Madame Tussauds Hollywood.
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OutfestNEXT shows us the true power of queer cinema
Outfest promises a new lineup of revolutionary LGBTQ+ films at this year’s festival
When Nicole Kidman said ‘We come to this place for magic,’ she was referring to queer cinema.
From John Waters to The Watermelon Woman, since the film industry began, queer artists have used this medium as a way to amplify their stories. This definitely wasn’t an easy task — in fact, for half of the industry’s existence, portraying our communities onscreen would have been considered a felony. Yet these storytellers risked their safety to ensure others had the representation they needed. It’s because of them that viewers today can see their identities in the media, with every project contributing to the ongoing fight for LGBTQ+ rights.
Each of these early queer artists showed the power that comes from making your dreams a reality (even when you have an entire government telling you to stop). They established a legacy of radical representation in film, one that audiences can see firsthand every year at the OutfestNEXT film festival.
Founded in 1983, Outfest has always fought to give LGBTQ+ filmmakers the opportunities they’re so often denied. The organization does this in many ways, from educational programs to local screenings, but there’s one event that has come to define their advocacy: OutfestNEXT. An annual film festival for LGBTQ+ films and the people who love them, the LA Blade spoke with Interim Executive Director Christopher Racster as he prepared for the 2026 iteration. He beamed throughout the conversation, excitedly discussing the many projects they’d be screening this year and the surprises his team has in store. He grew more serious as he spoke about the attacks LGBTQ+ media has seen in recent years, but he also wanted to make one thing clear: making queer film has never been easy.
It has always required a willingness to fight against hatred and a fearless commitment to authentic storytelling. A commitment that the Outfest staff try to embody every single day, especially right now as they prepare to do more for LGBTQ+ creatives than they ever have before.
“It’s tough to get your film made — it’s tougher when you’re queer,” began Racster, as he spoke about the role Outfest plays for LGBTQ+ artists. “That’s why we continue to invest in filmmaker education and mentoring. Part of our job is to help break down those barriers for you.” It’s an issue marginalized creators know well; social discrimination has always made inclusive filmmaking an uphill battle, one that has only worsened as we’ve seen a rise in hateful rhetoric online and in politics. And especially in 2026, as big studios routinely refuse to take chances on new, diverse voices, it’s becoming harder and harder for underserved artists to make the movies their communities need to see.
Enter Outfest, a yearly festival that brings together thousands of queer film aficionados for a deserved spotlight on these LGBTQ+ stories. Every event promises an exciting lineup of powerful films, and this one is no different; Racster raved about the many features his team was honored to select for the 2026 program. From a time-traveling coming-of-age drama, to a documentary on WNBA player Brittney Griner and her experience as a Russian prisoner, to a mind-bending sex comedy, each offers a unique perspective that viewers couldn’t have experienced otherwise. Christopher spoke excitedly about these and the many other films that would be screened this year, emphasizing how he hopes they’ll move new viewers as much as they’ve moved him.
And that, the Director emphasized, is at the core of not only this festival, but all of Outfest as an organization: the impact of queer film.
The past few years have seen an alarming dip in representation, a hate-fueled shift that has left many queer viewers worried. These depictions aren’t only chances for LGBTQ+ people to see their identities onscreen — although that is absolutely vital — but for society at large to better understand communities outside of their own. This is why Racster and all of Outfest work so diligently throughout the year, with the Director explaining, “Queer film has played the role of making people feel safe and seen when the rest of the world is not safe…[so] if people are going to push back, we have to push back harder.”
“We have to make sure that we are advocating for our storytellers…making sure that we are doing everything we can to afford opportunity for these people, both in front of and behind the screen.”
OutfestNEXT is a powerful tool against these attempts at erasure we’re seeing every day. Christopher Racster spoke about how honored he was to have a hand in creating this influential program, and how Outfest works year-round to assist the artists continuing this fight that early queer filmmakers began so many years ago. Above all else, though, when it came to this festival, Christopher feels that there’s one goal at the center of it, saying, “The real focus for us is joy.”
“We want to create a space where there is some joy and some celebration, both in terms of the films we’re showing and sharing, but also in terms of that opportunity for everybody to really come together and, you know, be in this safe third space that is about celebrating ourselves and each other.” At that, the man smiled, clearly thinking not only about what’s planned for this upcoming OutfestNEXT, but the many great things he and his team are preparing for after.
“There’s still much more to come throughout the rest of the year…and that’s what makes this job so, so much fun.”
OutfestNEXT 2026 will be held July 23-26 at the Los Angeles LGBT Center Renberg Theater and Micro Cinema. You can get your tickets here.
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Discord Addams wants you to say ‘F**k This!’
The ‘RuPaul’s Drag Race’ alum speaks about her new show and the importance of authenticity.
Discord Addams is a queen of many talents, as any fan who watched her run on RuPaul’s Drag Race season 18 will tell you.
The Florida-based drag queen pumped into this historic program ready to make a mark on the competition. Rocking her trademark ‘high fashion punk rock maximalist’ aesthetic and entertaining viewers with her biting personality (along with a…questionable runway walk), Discord spent each episode turning out not only astounding fashion but hard truths. The performer made it clear early on that she was never scared of sharing her genuine opinions with anyone who would listen. Whether it was judges on the runway or her fellow competitors in the werkroom, Addams always paired her punk rock kindness with a style of harsh sincerity that entertained audiences to no end. When she finished the season in sixth place, there was a whole new slew of fans ready to hear whatever hard truths Discord was ready to spill next.
And, luckily, they didn’t have to wait long. Because WOW Presents Plus recognized that thousands of new fans were still desperate to hear the style of unabashed candor that Discord brought to season 18. And now, with her new series on the platform, F**k This! With Discord Addams, this punk fan-favorite gets to give her audience the one thing they now know to always expect from her: brutal honesty.
“I felt like I was the star of season 18 — you know, whether I won or not,” laughed Addams, as she described what a whirlwind experience of going from a Drag Race contestant to host of her own series. “Getting to have my own show, where I get to talk about literally whatever the fuck I want to talk about, it just…it feels right.” F**k This! takes a relatively simple premise but spices it up with Discord’s ruthless style of candor; each episode sees her sit down in a completely demolished set and rant to the camera about a poignant topic, ranging from fast fashion to the horrific rise of AI. These dialogues are occasionally interrupted by Discord taking calls from her audience about their issues, with the Queen delivering genuinely insightful thoughts on whatever tenuous concept is presented to her.
Discord spoke about how this commitment to complete honesty was passed down to her from her parents, folks who understood the importance of telling their truth. “There was nobody censoring me growing up, so I think it was a natural progression into my standing up for what I feel is right.” It’s this mindset that has led Discord to become one of the most vocal advocates of the entire Drag Race franchise; even before her casting on the show, Addams used her social media to share community resources and speak out against injustices taking place all over the world. This has only increased since her time on season 18, with Addams using the new popularity this show has brought her to speak even more about corrupt politicians, the dangers of ICE, modern-day war criminals, and more.
Addams brings a refreshing willingness to speak about these hard topics that is unfortunately rare in today’s entertainment landscape. In an industry where, sadly, a performer speaking about social issues can hurt their career, Discord makes it clear that her punk nature doesn’t stop at her clothes. She embodies the roots of this subculture, one that began as an affront to modern fascism and has always been meant to challenge the discrimination that too many people take as a given in society. Addams is proud that she’s never silenced herself in order to ‘get ahead’ professionally…and she wishes that more of her fellow queens would do the same.
“I think a lot of the Drag Race girls in the past kind of teetered on a line of what they felt they were or were not allowed to say,” stressed Discord, calling out the many performers who haven’t used their platforms to discuss social issues. “I think there are a lot of drag queens who just censor themselves or like present themselves a certain way that they think is more palatable…people can sense authenticity, and they can also sense when you’re fucking lying to them.”
It’s an issue that has plagued the Drag Race fandom for years, though it isn’t entirely the queens’ fault; online bullying has become so horrific that many contestants are scared that by expressing themselves on the show, they’re inviting torrents of digital hate from so-called ‘fans.’ Yet while this is a valid fear — and something that this fandom desperately needs to work on — Discord reminds everyone through her drag that you don’t succeed by being a fake version of yourself. By refusing to speak about these issues, her fellow queens are hurting the movement and making it so that any success they may seem to have is built on lying to themselves and everyone around them.
It’s a twisted form of ‘winning’ that Discord completely detests, and it’s why she hopes her show, along with being an avenue to express her many feelings, is a lesson on authenticity for everyone watching.
Because while F**k This! Is thoroughly entertaining — it’s hilarious watching how eloquently Addams combines some of the most vile curse words — it is also a genuine lesson on the importance of honesty today. These concepts are ones that Addams struggles with in her own life and that she knows the people watching do as well. Each is selected because she knows they’ll resonate with those watching, and through hilarious rants and some sickening makeup, Discord hopes to use her own voice on these topics to help others do the same.
This is Discord Addams’ true goal with F**k This!: to not only entertain audiences but show them how empowering it is to be completely honest today. And whether you’re a new viewer or one of her longtime fans, Discord has just one lesson she hopes you take away from her new program: “If you’re being your most true, your most authentic self, you’re going to also bring in the most authentic [community]. You’re going to create a circle of people that genuinely want to hear what you have to say — instead of playing a bullshit character.”
F**k This! is now streaming on WOW Presents Plus
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How JP Karliak brings queer power to ‘X-Men ’97’
The voice actor speaks about voicing the MCU’s first nonbinary superhero.
Rarely have we seen a fierce comic book squad-up of LGBTQ+ icons like the X-Men.
Originating in Marvel comics, for decades now, the team’s millions of fans have watched their stories play out both in print and on the silver screen. Thousands of narratives — with even more astounding characters — that offer thrilling adventures, as well as poignant lessons on what discrimination looks like today. Because despite what some Marvel fans may have you believe, these stories about a class of people being disenfranchised by a bigoted society have always been allegories for the discrimination faced by real-life communities. Combine this with its many queer and queer-coded members, and it’s no wonder that LGBTQ+ fans were ecstatic when it was announced that the team’s original series, X-Men: The Animated Series, was being rebooted for Disney+ in 2025.
These viewers were thrilled to once again watch their favorite team of super-powered mutants fight bad guys with campy flair. But when the reboot, X-Men ’97, was released, LGBTQ+ fans were shocked to learn it would also feature the first nonbinary character in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe! Morph, the shapeshifting, wise-cracking mutant from the original series, would return to not only fight villainy but also provide vital representation for millions of nonbinary audience members. And when creating such a monumental figure for this version of the team, X-Men ’97’s creators knew there was only one voice actor who could do the superhero justice: JP Karliak.
“As a kid, I was a huge fan of animated shows like He-Man and Batman: The Animated Series. I was so enamored with voice acting, I felt it couldn’t be a real job!” Laughed Karliak, as they spoke with the Los Angeles Blade to celebrate X-Men ’97’s recent season two premiere. It’s the latest project in their jaw-dropping career; whether it’s voicing the titular professional in Boss Baby: Back in Business or a saucy trophy in video game Date Everything!, Karliak can be heard in many hit franchises. They’ve become known for the tonal whimsy they bring into every role, a trademark talent that has made JP one of the voice acting industry’s top queer actors.
Karliak emphasized how honored they are for this title — especially because of the many issues this industry still has with its LGBTQ+ performers. “There’s a narrow-mindedness in so much of the voice industry that it’s like, ‘Okay, well, we can only let you play this particular thing,’” they explained. “But also just a [person’s] transness shouldn’t determine that they can only voice trans roles or only voice nonbinary roles! In the same way we’ve seen so many cis straight people play cis-het roles, letting queer people play the majority roles only helps us to build long-lasting careers — because there’s no way to do it if we’re only playing queer roles.”
It’s a unique set of issues further complicated by the many problems all voice actors face today, ranging from the rise of AI to big studios’ harmful underpayment practices. It’s because of this that JP established QueerVox, a nonprofit that provides aspiring queer voice performers with the training they need while connecting them with the roles they deserve. From communal job boards to free classes to networking events that help LGBTQ+ artists connect, Karliak spoke proudly of all they’ve done to help make this industry more accessible for all.
Presented with a performer who excels not only in talent but in making a difference, it’s no wonder that the X-Men ’97 team thought JP Karliak would be the perfect voice for Morph! Although the character definitely had a darker backstory than the actor’s usual roles, X-Men: The Animated Series saw Morph turn from the team’s comic relief into the brainwashed henchman of their most sickening villain. This led to the mutant spending much of their original time on the show in recovery, traumatized from having their autonomy ripped from them in a narrative that resonated so deeply with LGBTQ+ fans. Karliak was thrilled to bring back Morph to hopefully give them the joy they deserved, and they were happy to be doing so with the character — one who literally shifts constantly between gender identities — finally using they/them pronouns.
“Knowing from the get-go that this was going to be a nonbinary character now, and as identifying as gender queer myself…I felt so much kinship with this character,” explained JP, as they spoke about how it felt to embody Morph through their voice. “It felt like as long as I was being true to myself, I was doing the character a service.”
It’s a truth that comes through in every line, with JP’s mischievous yet resounding performance style showing in every moment Morph is onscreen. They recognized that this would be one of the first examples of a nonbinary person that viewers would see in animation and wanted to do them justice, saying, “Giving nonbinary characters [like Morph] the ability to be serious, to experience loss and pain, to experience joy — all aspects of humanity! And to not just be relegated to one narrow band of the human experience…it’s just so important.”
This interview took place on the day that it was announced X-Men ’97 would be returning for seasons three and four, which meant fans can expect more years of Morph shapeshifting across their screens. Karliak was ecstatic at this news, and when asked what they hope to explore in these new installments with the character, they said, “In season one, Morph was a less confident version of me, because Morph was really just trying to find where they belonged and feeling accepted, having just rejoined this team and not really knowing what the dynamic was…I think season two finds them much more confident, much more akin to where I find myself, personality-wise. They don’t feel that they always have to use humor to break the tension.”
“So much of Morph’s journey has been dominated by victimization and trauma and so much hurt. I’d love to see them just experience some joy and find friendships and relationships that are really fun, and fulfilling, and beautiful.”
It’s a future for the character that many of their fans hope to see as well. And, luckily for them all, with a talent like JP Karliak voicing the nonbinary mutant, chances are they’ll be getting just that — and so, so much more.
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Lupercio Media turns influencing into advocacy
Founder Carlo Lupercio speaks about helping marginalized creators today
In a digital landscape where social media reigns supreme, few industries are as profitable — or as risky — as the influencer economy.
Becoming an influencer has transformed from a side hobby into a legitimate profession, one that generates millions every year. And that’s putting it lightly; low estimates of profit derived from influencers in 2025 currently sit at 30 million dollars. Whether it be corporations making online celebrities a major part of their marketing or certain users getting paid thousands of dollars for a single post, it’s undeniable that influencers hold power within our often unstable economy.
Which is why the industry’s bias against marginalized creators is so deeply unfortunate.
The bigoted rhetoric that fills many parts of modern society has always (sadly) infected our digital world. It’s an issue that has only grown in recent years, with a combination of hateful users and predatory algorithms making it insurmountably harder for diverse influencers to find their audience online. It’s a harmful trend that continues to stifle the queer voices so many people need to hear right now, and it’s something that Carlo Lupercio fights against through his agency, Lupercio Management.
“We represent specifically Latin as well as LGBTQIA+ creators — creators that are not traditionally represented to the full capacity,” explained Lupercio when he sat down to speak with the Los Angeles Blade. “I serve as their partner but also as their manager, and really am just amplifying and helping them achieve the goals that they want to achieve as creators.” Carlo brings a personal passion to this work; before founding this agency, he worked in influencer marketing for many well-known brands. And it was through these experiences that he learned the term that companies use to keep our communities out of the spotlight: ‘brand safe.’
“There is this stigma of some brands where what is okay for a White gay creator may not be okay for a Brown or Black creator,” Carlo explained. “As a creator, you want to be authentic. You want to show your [truest] self to the internet, because that’s the way that people will follow you…but oftentimes, a brand does not see that as ‘brand safe.’” He detailed the many times he saw this term used against queer and POC influencers, with executives using it as a method of catering to the potential anger of the hateful parts of their audiences.
Carlo got a firsthand look at this phenomenon and how it left many talented people without the opportunities they needed in this cutthroat industry. It made him passionate about fighting against these discriminations to create a way for influencers of any identity to have an equal shot at success — and so, Lupercio Media was born.
Lupercio Media serves as a comprehensive resource for its clients, with each one belonging to a marginalized community (identities that would make many other agencies ignore them completely). Carlo outlined how he works daily with these creatives to understand their dreams and develop plans on how to attain them, helping them in countless ways, ranging from establishing their image to securing brand deals. But beyond these professional duties, Lupercio stressed that he also serves as a personal cheerleader for each of these diverse clients, saying, “There’s obviously the job component — but I am also their partner. I find out who they are as a person outside of [being an influencer]…when you’re working with talent, they’re still people at the end of the day. So really getting to know them personally is a huge role of mine as a manager.”
“I think it’s important for [influencers] to create content that shows who they are…because it’ll only inspire the next person,” emphasized Carlo. “It’ll open up more opportunities, and it will show brands that this is a large demographic in society that they just cannot ignore — despite everything that is going on in the world. Because LGBTQIA+ people are here. They’re present. And they are not going anywhere.”
And that is at the heart of Lupercio Media: the knowledge that managing these people not only helps their careers but also the LGBTQ+ community as a whole. Because social media is growing every single day! And queer users, especially young ones, are constantly searching for people with their identities who show them that they can succeed as their most authentic selves — even if there are many people today telling them they can’t.
Because of the influencer industry’s discriminatory practices, many of these folks searching for inspiration have been historically left wanting. But through Lupercio Media, Carlo works hard to not only give marginalized creatives a platform but also to make sure that everyone has someone they can look up to online.
It may sound laughable to the many folks who still write off influencers and the power they hold. But Lupercio Media recognizes the strength of these individuals and how they can serve as true models of success for countless underserved communities today. Carlo Lupercio works tirelessly to ensure that any creator, no matter their identity, has what they need to offer their followers the representation they need — and all while securing some pretty sweet brand deals along the way.
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The Queer Film Collective makes your favorite movies possible
This LA-based nonprofit unveils its brand new panel series and talks all things film industry.
If we want queer artists to succeed, then there need to be systems that support them.
Unfortunately, providing free resources to aspiring artists hasn’t always been America’s priority. This is even more blatant for marginalized creators; while the U.S. has rarely offered artistic programs the funding they deserve, recent years have seen countless conservative attacks against most kinds of LGBTQ+ creativity. But despite these institutional and social roadblocks, queer creatives have always persisted! No matter what era of film and television we’re in, it’s heartening to watch so many creators fighting to not only make their own projects but also make it easier for other marginalized artists to do the same.
In a city as vibrant as Los Angeles, there are luckily dozens of groups helping to platform underserved filmmakers today. These organizations fight to create a film industry where truly anyone can thrive, and nowhere is that work more visible than within the Queer Film Collective.
Growing from a small networking group into a thriving nonprofit, the Queer Film Collective (QFC) serves as a resource hub for LGBTQ+ directors, actors, and all film and TV professionals in Los Angeles. The LA Blade spoke with QFC’s founder, Ray Taylor, about how important the group’s work is today, emphasizing how it’s more important than ever that we support the people making inclusive media possible. He spoke about the impact of this representation, the experience of trying to create LGBTQ+ films in our current political environment, and, when discussing QFC’s exciting new Summer Panel Series, how he’s excited to foster an LA film industry that gives queer filmmakers the respect they deserve.
“We’re doing everything we can to make it so filmmakers can make their films,” explained Taylor, as he described the whirlwind process his past year with QFC has been. “The Queer Film Collective is a nonprofit that provides resources, opportunities, and education. We focus on four pillars: connect, collaborate, create, celebrate, and our main focus is making it easier for films to be made.” It’s an important mission for not only queer filmmakers but creators in general! The past few decades have seen big studios grow more reluctant to give new creatives a chance (or offer livable wages to the many workers who make their projects possible). And while recent years have shown that not only original ideas but also small creators are essential to improving the film industry, it’s been extremely disheartening to see that this hasn’t changed today.
Ray, an accomplished film director, spoke about how the QFC was created in opposition to this unfortunate phenomenon. He organized the group’s first official meet-up — a small get-together of only a few dozen people — as a space for folks to share advice about navigating this tenuous profession while queer. “The more I talked to people, the more I realized they wanted resources, they wanted opportunities, they wanted to get on sets,” he reminisced. “So I threw together a pitch deck, and I said, ‘All right, here’s my five-year plan. We’re going to become a nonprofit.’ And in January of this year, we got our official 501c3 status, and that five-year plan is now thrown out the window — because everything that was on it has already happened in the first six months of our being alive.”
The Queer Film Collective couldn’t have arrived at a better time because, as Taylor is quick to remind anyone who will listen, inclusive media has always been key in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights. The man stressed, “It’s really important to focus on telling these stories that allow queer people to just be seen as people — they’re just everyday people! They experience joy; they experience heartbreak…I think that it’s really important to normalize seeing queer people in media, because the more normal that you see queer people in media, the more normal you will see queer people in life.” And while we’ve been lucky to see allies create inclusive media, Taylor emphasized that it’s only by uplifting queer filmmakers that we ensure this industry continues to make media that our communities can find themselves within.
Whether it be community meet-ups, their constantly evolving job board, or the organization’s constant spotlights on queer projects and individuals, every aspect of the QFC helps create the onscreen representation that so many people need to see. And while each of these facets is integral to the group’s work, Ray has never been more excited for the upcoming resource they’ll be providing LGBTQ+ filmmakers: The QFC Summer Panel Series.
“I wanted an event that we get to do every year, and whatever that is, I wanted it to be impactful,” raved Taylor, as he excitedly described how he and other QFC leadership initially thought of the series. He spoke at length about the many industry professionals they’re honored to have join these panels and, in a shocking rarity for educational opportunities in film, how all of the conversations will eventually be uploaded completely free online. “The conversations that we chose this year we felt were really important because we’re starting our panel series with a whole conversation about queer joy and telling stories beyond trauma, and we’re ending our panel series on a on a panel that’s talking about how to create art in today’s political climate…all of these are hot topics right now, and I think that they need to be told. And I think not only do queer filmmakers need to hear this, but everyone needs to hear.”
As the interview came to an end, it was obvious how ecstatic Ray was to talk about the Summer Panel Series and invite everyone reading to attend. Not just because of what an accomplishment it was — though he proudly listed off the many amazing discussions this series had in store — but what it represented for QFC as a whole. This organization was founded to empower LGBTQ+ filmmakers and help create an industry where not only can inclusive media be easily made, but the people who want to make it actually have the chance to. This panel series caps off an astounding first year of doing just that, with Taylor teasing even more to come in the next few months.
And as a final pitch to encourage folks to come, Ray summarized why this panel series — and all of the Queer Film Collective — is so vital: “I think that queer stories are so important to tell…and not just the ones focused on trauma or coming out! In my opinion, the most important queer stories right now are the ones focused on joy and succeeding in life, because we need to show the world — and not just the world, but also young LGBTQ+ people — that queer people are here. We’re going to survive. We’re going to keep pushing, and nothing’s going to bring us down. And so I think that queer filmmakers need to have those opportunities to tell these stories, because I think that they are so important.”
Summer Panel Series: Thu, Jul 9, 202610:59 AM Thu, Aug 27, 2026 1:00 PM
Join the Queer Film Collective for an 8 week panel series bringing together working filmmakers, writers, and creatives for honest, practical conversations about the realities of the industry today.
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